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  • From: <dmnorton@royaloakfarmorchard.com>
  • To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Dead Peaches, and does anyone know anything about a "Ouishi Nakate" plum?
  • Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:40:48 -0500

The younger the peach tree, the more susceptible it is to freezing.  Once a tree is 4 to 5 years old, it will endure below zero temps better than a 1 year old, at least that was our experience.  We had about 600 trees that were over 12 years old that would endure -10 below, but once we planted new trees to replace the old ones, we started to receive temps down to -24 and most of the trees did not survive.  Those on Bailey rootstock did last longer...but we eventually took them all out.  Most new wood ( previous year growth) would freeze at -10 to -20 had to be pruned off.  But once it hit -24 for over 6 hours, the entire tree froze.  The real question is how long can a particular tree last at sustained below zero temps.  Sometimes it is more of a question as to how many hours it is sub zero than how low the temp is.  A tree may endure -21 for 1 or 2 hours, but may not if it is -21 for 6 or 8 hours.   Has anyone experimented with grafting scionwood from an older tree that has survived sub zero temps to a cold hearty rootstock?  Just a thought!
 
Dennis Norton
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----- Original Message -----
From: eric
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 7:07 PM
Subject: [NAFEX] Dead Peaches,and does anyone know anything about a "Ouishi Nakate" plum?

We also live in Vermont (Zone 4, close to 5) and we loose peach trees regularly, while the others live on and do well. It could very well be the soil health (they do not like wet feet) or lack of nutriention ). We lost 3 this year, 2 intrepids and 1 Wisconsin Balmer (all three were on St Julian Rootstock) , but we still have 2 intrepids, 6 Balmers, 1 Ranger, 1 Hardired, 1 Georgia Belle, 4 Polly's, and numerious reliance seedlings which made it with no problems (few flowers though, it got to 21 below last winter). We plant peaches every year to make up for the losses, last years harvest was tremendous (broken branch type) so it might have weakened some of them. So don't give up just because you lost a few trees.
 
On another note, I ordered some budwoood from Grin and mistakenly ordered "Ouishi Nakate" japanse plum. Does anyone know about this variety?
 
THanks, Eric



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