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  • From: Douglas Woodard <dwoodard@becon.org>
  • To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] My first taste of persimmon
  • Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:04:24 -0500

To the best of my knowledge, D. virginiana is not native to any part of Canada, although some cultivars (Szukis for example) have been selected in the Niagara Peninsula where the historic lows *below* the escarpment near Lake Ontario range from minus 12 degress F. (Niagara-on-the-Lake) to minus 16 F. at Vineland. There are some native pawpaws in the Niagara Peninsula and elsewhere in the deciduous forest/Carolinian zone (Agriculture Canada zones 7a and 6b), with the tulip trees, black gums and such. I think safe pawpaw country may be limited to the warmer parts of our 6b.

Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada



Chris Garriss wrote:
I have had Asian persimmons and native American. While much smaller,
I've found the taste of almost all the Americans to be superior to the
Asians - however I have never seen Americans offered for sale any where
but rarely in a farmer's market. You are definitely out of the range of
any Asians I know of, and dicey at best for the Americans. The
Americans, Diospyros virginiana, are pretty tender when young, but in
theory dormant mature trees are hardy to about -35°C (-31°F). I have
read that Dooley and Geneva Red both grow well at the northern limits of
the range, but have no experience with your zone or named varieties - I
have always picked from the wild. I have a brother in Canada, and have
heard that there are some small distributed populations there - but
mostly near lakes and rivers.

Hope you get to try the Americans at some point.

Chris




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