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[Hélène Dessureault <interverbis@videotron.ca>]

Hi Tanis. This is also why I am grafting on M111. As far as cold hardiness I 
find that they seem OK. When I get a dies back, it is usually due to the 
variety and the root send out new shoots. M111 seems quite hardy in my 
location, colder than yours without a doubt.
I find trees branching out very low and a friend told me to let the main 
leader reach chin level before letting side branches develop. So I have been 
pinching back all side shoots to let the tree know where I want it to go...
I was wondering whether the low lateral meant that the tree was trying to 
stay closer to the ground. I did though observed since I asked that question 
that a seedling from a blue pairmain apple that I planted is also growing 
this way and a few others as well, and these are most likely standard trees.
So maybe all trees like to develop some side branches along the way, without 
it being a reflection on their actual tree size.

Pruning is fascinating...

I do have lots of deers, last year being a disaster on the deer front. They 
like the small apple trees, and totally ignore pears. After the deep snow 
cover of last winter, the deer population is down, so maybe my trees will 
have a favorable window to get past the point where they eat the main 
leader. I tried to explain to them that if they are patient enough, there 
will be a reward... but to no avail...


Hélène
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "tanis cuff" <tanistanis@hotmail.com>
To: <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] M111



Helene, I'm trying mm111 because of its high rating on drought tolerance, 
sandy soil, and ability to grow above the deer browse-line.  But it was one 
of the lesser rated for winter hardiness.  I'm resigned to losing a few 
trees if my z4/5 location ever goes back to real winters.

I don't have anything on it grown to maturity yet.  Same cultivars topworked 
on Bud 118 outgrow it.

________________________________
> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:12:19 -0700
> From: wce1482
> To: nafex
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] M111
>
> I'm not sure how much help I can be as I live in zone 5, but I have a 
> number on trees on M111 and they act more like full size trees than 
> semi-dwarf.

> --- On Thu, 7/3/08, Hélène Dessureault wrote:
> From: Hélène Dessureault
> Subject: [NAFEX] M111
> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <>
> Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 4:34 PM
>
> Greetings to all fruit addicts,
>
> I am looking for information about sizes of tree, particularly M111, in 
> colder climate. Let's say zone 3, zone 4, on sandy soil?
>
> M111 is supposed to be semi standard, but it seems to me that they perform 
> more like a semi-dwarf in colder climate. I would certainly like to find 
> out more about this, as it would be very useful for pruning and for 
> planting as a matter of fact...
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