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["Luffman, Margie" <luffmanm@AGR.GC.CA>]

Yes, that is the correct name but it is often called simply Duchess. It is a 
very nice name and the word does evoke good feelings. Years ago one of my 
colleagues used to call my beloved dachshund by the name Duchess since she 
was clearly adored and treated like royalty. Her real name was Loyalist. 

 
Margie
 
Margie Luffman 
Curator/Conservatrice
Canadian Clonal Genebank/Banque canadienne de Clones
Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada/Agriculture et Agroalimentaire Canada
Telephone/Téléphone:  519-738-1267 (new)
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[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Judson Frisk
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 12:55 PM
To: 'North American Fruit Explorers'
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] What's in an apple name?

Isn't the proper name for Duchess, "Duchess of Oldenburg".  I assume it was
brought in during the 19th Century when apples of Russian heritage were
brought into northern Iowa and Minnesota for their hardiness. Judson L.
Frisk

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[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Donna &/or Kieran
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:28 AM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] What's in an apple name?

There actually is a Duchess apple, but I doubt most Minnesotans have heard 
of it.  It sounds like a name you might give to your favorite anything, it's

a name to evoke fond feelings.  I think if you gave a familiar name from one

thing to another, that second thing might sell better because of the feeling

of familiarity.  My husband says best not use a name like "Edsel" though, 
some words evoke the notion of failure.  Japanese and Chinese are worse 
languages than English for words with bad connotations, but I'm sure we can 
think of plenty of bad selling names.  "Grumpy" apples wouldn't sell well. 
I have to wonder about "Sourpuss" because people who like sour apples but 
can't find any sour enough might at least sample it.  It's an amusing word, 
and if it became bandied about as having to do with the apples some people 
adore while others despise, it could become popular and become a word we 
regard with some fondness.   One sour apple thrown into a pie or other dish 
can make all the difference to the flavor, so now you come across recipes 
calling specifically for Granny Smith's.
    Parkland might have started selling well if you'd called it Scrumptious,

Sops o Wine, hmmm, how about some good potential apple names that haven't 
been used?  the thing is, that now your false "Duchess" has acquired a bit 
of a following and you'd best stick with it.  This is how confusion reigns 
in the world of variety names.   Jim, you may want to start propagating some

trees to sell, if it isn't patented, to satisfy those who want their own 
trees.  If it is patented, didn't they just make it easy to pay up?   Donna 

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