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[rob hamilton <lostman_amiga@yahoo.com>]

One thing I am testing is planting  Illinios everbearing in large root control pots in the ground. I have it in the ground for 2 1/2 years now at about 10 feet high with no pruning. The growth seem to be slowed, but I am not getting much fruit. I still need more time to really come to a conclusion. I dont have the space to plant 'control' tree to compare. If you have the space, give it a try. I would love to here your results.

I do have some smaller pots on some figs too that are about 1 1/2 in the ground.

Rob

S & E Hills <ehills7408@wowway.com> wrote:
>  I wish I had a solution.  I also have an illinios everbearing that grows too
> vigorously, it seems, for summer pruning to keep in check.  Unrestrained
> growth seems to quickly reach 10-12 feet or more (and this is all over the
> tree).  Mine is now in its 4th
>  year and its trunk is easily 2+ inches in
> diameter (and thickest branches are probably 2/3 - 3/4ths that size)  I've
> trimmed 4 times this summer, with most recent pruning about 2 weeks ago.  As
> I am not near its hardiness limits I am less fearful of pruning later in the
> summer (though I am now done for the season).  I figure if any new growth
> dies back it will only serve to restrain overall growth.
>
> I did figure out that leaving a 1 to 1 1/2 stub (without buds) does seem to
> prevent as rampant of growth, but I'm careful to watch for problems in
> leaving that much wood to die back when I make pruning cuts.
>
> Scott Hills
>
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> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of William C. Garthright
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 11:06 AM
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> Subject: [NAFEX] Summer Pruning
>
> If we learn from our mistakes, I should be the smartest man in the
>  world 
> pretty quick...
>
> As a newcomer to fruit trees - or pretty much any planting - I browsed 
> the Internet for information, and some sites suggest that any tree can 
> be kept small - kept to any size, they say - with summer pruning. I 
> don't have much room (considering how much I want to plant), and I don't 
> need much fruit of any one kind at one time, so I've tried to plant 
> dwarf trees. But sometimes, that hasn't been possible, and I'd hoped to 
> use summer pruning to keep things in check.
>
> Unfortunately, I haven't found this to be as easy as advertised. In 
> particular, I'm having a problem with my two-year-old Toka plum (though 
> my Illinois Everbearing Mulberry, just planted this spring, is going to 
> be at least as bad). This tree is extremely vigorous and just wants to 
> grow and grow. The branches tend to get very long, and turn to grow 
> straight up at the ends. If I cut the ends off with summer pruning, that 
> hardly
>  seems to slow them up. They quickly sprout out a ton of shoots 
> just below the pruned cut, and all of them grow just as rapidly, so much 
> that the added weight at the end is too heavy for the branch to hold up. 
> (And if I cut them off closer to the trunk, I just get a mass of shoots 
> every which way.)
>
> I understand why cutting off the tip of a branch encourages it to sprout 
> new growth,... but that's what summer pruning IS, isn't it? How do I 
> slow this whole process down a bit? I'm ending up with a tree that looks 
> terrible, and STILL grows too big.
>
> Perhaps I'm not cutting back often enough? If I cut off the tip, then 
> when it starts to branch out, cut it off again, below all the shoots? 
> Almost all of the branching seems to occur at the very end. On the other 
> hand, it's horribly hot and dry here in the summer, and I hate to be 
> pruning trees under those conditions (both for my sake and the tree's 
> sake). And I was told
>  that, in this climate, I really need to stop 
> pruning by mid-summer, so that the new growth can harden off before 
> winter. So, was I just too gullible to believe all that about summer 
> pruning in the first place?
>
> Any comments? I am learning, but... not as quickly as I'd wish.
>
> Bill
> Lincoln, NE (zone 5)
>
>
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