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[hans brinkmann <hans-brinkmann@t-online.de>]

Hallo Lon, Lee and Rob,

I just saw your question and answers and let me add some important informations.
Some Sorbus domestica cultivar trees are looking like a mixture of European Mountain Ash with an average Apple tree.
They have very, very beautifull fruits, but with 40 years they are already old.
But some other Sorbus domestica cultivars are looking more like a big Oak tree.
Some are up to 400 years old with a trunk diameter up to 1.45 m and up to 1000kg fruits per tree!
Not very few S. domestica have a height of more than 30 m at Germany.
This means you can find cultivars for an average garden and cultivars even for forestry.
At Germany the highly prized fruits are very necessary for the apple-wine production.

S. torminalis fruits are used sometimes for a very high prized snaps at Austria.

Let me add this very much reduced 24 KB photo from a German Sorbus domestica tree for a better understanding.

ciao
hans      Germany






Lon J. Rombough schrieb:

I haven't taken time to learn all the ways to use them, but Hans Brinkman has sent me pictures of some selected types in Germany that have enormous clusters and are used for juice and other products. At very least, the types he showed me are magnificent ornamentals. The wood is extremely hard, too.
-Lon Rombough
Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, The Grape Grower, at http://www.bunchgrapes.com Winner of the Garden Writers Association "Best Talent in Writing" award for 2003.
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On Sep 21, 2007, at 6:59 PM, S & E Hills wrote:



Now, Lon…It’s descriptions like this one that make me want to find enough room to plant something like these…
 
Scott Hills
St. Clair Shores, Mi. 48080
Zone 6b

From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Lon J. Rombough
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 11:05 AM
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I have S. domestica here. The fresh fruit is crisp, juicy, and incredibly astringent. However, even a good bump or a small mark on the fruit apparently releases enzymes that blet the fruit in a hurry as it will become edible in just a few hours. After a day or two it takes on a flavor that makes me think of brandy.
-Lon Rombough
Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, The Grape Grower, at http://www.bunchgrapes.com Winner of the Garden Writers Association "Best Talent in Writing" award for 2003.
For even more grape lessons, go to http://www.grapeschool.com
For growing supplies and more; http://www.grapegrowersolutions.com

On Sep 21, 2007, at 8:38 AM, h black wrote:

There are some large specimens at the Seattle Botanical Gardens.  The fruit is quite beautiful.  Like a head of elderberries, maybe 10-15 fruits size of a cherry, some shaped like little pears with blush on the cheek, some like little apples.  They're not bad tasting, but not as good as a pear.  Interesting strong flavor, pear-like texture.  Tree must be 40 ft.  But we've had trouble growing them in the heat of middle TN.  Fungus disease and apple borers down on the trunk.   Hector Black zone 6 middle tn.
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