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  • From: Goodwill at Homefields Farm <sbreneman@yourgoodwill.org>
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  • Subject: [NAFEX] bamboo info
  • Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:11:27 -0400

Thanks for the tips on bamboo. Bass, would you have divisions of that to bring to the Backyard Fruit Growers summer tour?

Scott




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Today's Topics:

1. Re: math, inches in mm (Stephen Sadler)
2. Re: dwarf almonds (dwoodard@becon.org)
3. Re: Curculio / Surround adhesion question (dwoodard@becon.org)
4. Re: bamboo variety for stakes (Bassem Samaan)
5. chemical thinning question (sjkeipert@highstream.net)
6. Re: Saskatoon Research,Richard Murphy (growyourown@earthlink.net)
7. Re: chemical thinning question (Ed Fackler)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 21:57:37 -0700
From: "Stephen Sadler" <Docshiva@Docshiva.org>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] math, inches in mm
To: <dmnorton@royaloakfarmorchard.com>, "'North American Fruit
Explorers'" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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6mm is just barely shy of a quarter inch, not an eighth. 25.4mm per inch.


My allergist's office used to have a sign saying to tell them if, after a
shot, you got a wheal on your arm greater than 25 cm. I'm sure they meant
mm - a 10 inch wheal would need more than one arm.


~ Stephen



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To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Curculio / Surround adhesion question


Mark,


I have never seen PC really any longer than 5-6mm. I have probably seen
nearly 100 or so and they have all been around that size. For those not
acquainted with the metric measurement of insects, 6mm=1/8".


You spray at petal fall because you want the PC adults to ingest the spray
before they lay eggs so they never have the chance to lay those eggs. If
the spray is done at petal fall before full fruit set, it is in place to be
ingested as the females begin to strike the fruit which can happen as
quickly as 2-3 days from petal fall. I have seen strikes on fruit as small
as 3mm in Liberty apples that set first and grow the fastest. Our Liberty
were at 20mm when most other varieties were at 12 - 15mm. We thin with NAA
between 12 and 15mm and have to use Sevin on anything larger than 15mm. And
if you let PC larvae survive in the fruitlets, they will become the next
year's adults as they survive through June drop. They will stay in the
fruit and never ingest any spray. Hope that answers your questions. If
not, just let me know.



Dennis Norton
Royal Oak Farm Orchard
http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.com
http://www.theorchardkeeper.blogspot.com
http://www.revivalhymn.com

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 02:59:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: dwoodard@becon.org
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] dwarf almonds
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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Lon, are you sure that cooking destroys the cyanide compound?

Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada

Lon Rombough wrote:

Sounds like Prunus tenella. Tom Plocher in Hugo, MN said he had some
bushes of that species that produced 300 nuts per bush after -40 F.
The species is sold as an ornamental by several nurseries. They are
bitter, so the nuts have to be cooked to be safely edible.
-Lon Rombough




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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 03:11:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: dwoodard@becon.org
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Curculio / Surround adhesion question
To: dmnorton@royaloakfarmorchard.com, "North American Fruit Explorers"
<nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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Dennis, I have read of a control fro apple maggot involving red fake
apples covered with tanglefoot. Do you know if anything like this works on
curculio? maybe with a fruit scent lure?

Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada


Dennis Norton wrote:

You spray at petal fall because you want the PC adults to ingest the spray
before they lay eggs so they never have the chance to lay those eggs. If
the spray is done at petal fall before full fruit set, it is in place to
be ingested as the females begin to strike the fruit which can happen as
quickly as 2-3 days from petal fall. I have seen strikes on fruit as
small as 3mm in Liberty apples that set first and grow the fastest. Our
Liberty were at 20mm when most other varieties were at 12 - 15mm. We thin
with NAA between 12 and 15mm and have to use Sevin on anything larger than
15mm. And if you let PC larvae survive in the fruitlets, they will become
the next year's adults as they survive through June drop. They will stay
in the fruit and never ingest any spray. Hope that answers your
questions. If not, just let me know.


Dennis Norton
Royal Oak Farm Orchard
http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.com
http://www.theorchardkeeper.blogspot.com
http://www.revivalhymn.com




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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 06:08:11 -0500
From: "Bassem Samaan" <bassem@gardener.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] bamboo variety for stakes
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <20070607110811.D54AC1BF281@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I have collected and used the variety "yellow grove" with best results.
This type of Bamboo is stiff and can be as long as 15'. I use it in the
garden for stakes and as a hoop for growing beans. I also used it as a
stake for shipping trees. I can use the top part of the bamboo which is
thiner, and goes right into the container and used as a support during
shipping. Bass

----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna &/or Kieran"
To: "North American Fruit Explorers"
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] bamboo variety for stakes
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:40:57 -0500

Hector Black who owned HIdden Springs Nursery in TN showed us how to
harvest native cane for his nursery, cutting only 3 year canes. I don't
know if his daughter still uses it. We grow the solid stem bamboo, but I
know that's not what I received in a box of trees from McMinnville TN. Donna
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