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["ethan roland" <eroland@gmail.com>]

Howdy All-

I am looking for sources of a handful of strange + interesting plants for a new forest garden I am planting in Upstate New York. I have not been able to locate any of the following, and I appreciate any leads y'all can give me! The plants are:

- Amelanchier stolonifera (running juneberry)
- Glycyrrhiza lepidota (American licorice)
- Robinia viscosa (clammy locust)
- Zanthoxylum americanum (prickly ash; American pepper tree)

The characteristic I'm looking for with the first three is an ability to sucker and run...

Please let me know if you have any ideas!

Cheers,
Ethan

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Pixie Crunch apple scionwood - Not (Stefan Brandle)
   2. Re: Small Black Bullace (Donna &/or Kieran)
   3. Re: Small Black Bullace (Lon J. Rombough)
   4. Re: Videoa available from NAFEX 2006 ( Jwlehman@aol.com)


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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:04:05 -0500
From: Stefan Brandle < sbrandle@css.taylor.edu>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Pixie Crunch apple scionwood - Not
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I tried talking to Purdue people about how to making payments for
grafting coop apples. Jules Janick answered my email and was very
friendly. He gave me the email address of someone at the Purdue
Foundation to correspond with. Said person did an admirable imitation of
a email black hole. I gave up and dropped the idea. I really got the
impression that they aren't set up to handle individuals doing small
quantities and would rather not have to know about it. So the report
that they said "give something in our name to your favorite
charity"sounds realistic.

P.S.: Just got back from a two week trip to Nigeria. Sadly, way to early
for mangos and other wonderful fruits. I'll post about that in the next
week or so.

-- sb




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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:19:08 -0600
From: "Donna &/or Kieran" <holycow@cookeville.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Small Black Bullace
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Chuck,
    If you don't get any reply on this, you might look see if you can find some company that sells tree seeds that has them.  Of course, you can't get them from any European company due to Plum Pox.
    Really, the bullace and the damson are considered to be the same except for shape of fruit.  True, I saw bullace wild in hedgerows in England but not damson.  But they will taste very similar and the trees will be very similar.  Why exactly are you wanting bullace?     Donna
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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:24:51 -0800
From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Small Black Bullace
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I have a white bullace, and some Prunus spinosa, the sloe plum, if that
would help.  P. spinosa is one of the parent species of P. insititia,
and P. domestica.  Quite small, very intense and astringent until it
has hung on the tree for a very long time.  The "tree" is a shrubby
thing, really not much more than a large bush about 10 feet tall.
-Lon Rombough
Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, The Grape Grower, at
http://www.bunchgrapes.com  Winner of the Garden Writers Association
"Best Talent in Writing" award for 2003.
For even more grape lessons, go to  http://www.grapeschool.com
For growing supplies and more;  http://www.grapegrowersolutions.com

On Jan 26, 2007, at 9:19 PM, Donna &/or Kieran wrote:

Chuck,
??? If you don't get any reply on this, you might look see if you can
find some company that sells tree seeds that has them.? Of course, you
can't get them from any European company due to Plum Pox.?
??? Really, the bullace and the damson are considered to be the same
except for shape of fruit.? True, I saw bullace wild in hedgerows in
England but not damson.??But they will taste very similar and the trees
will be very similar.? Why exactly are you wanting bullace?????
Donna_______________________________________________
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 09:08:53 EST
From: Jwlehman@aol.com
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Videoa available from NAFEX 2006
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In a message dated 1/24/2007 11:38:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
BekeeprTop@aol.com writes:

> Jerry,
> My DVD player plays "DVD, CD, Kodak Picture CD, CD-R and CD-RW; and there's
> various formats but it doesn't say anything about MPG.   I don't understand
> MPG, I'm guessing it would bbe bbest converted over to DVD format if you are
> willing to do it.  Or, I still have a video player, if you make videos.  I'll
> take my chances if you can try to convert to DVD.  What do you think?
> Charlie Paradise

Hi Charlie,

MPG is the format the cam corder uses and most computers can play.

Why don't I convert one MPG to DVD and send it? If it works I can convert all
if you wish. If the one doesn't play on your DVD the postage is only 87 cents
for one, don't worry about it. Which MPG do you wish?
Jerry

MPG 95   Exploring the Caucasus Mountains for Wild Fruits and Nuts, Joseph
                       Postman
MPG.95            Pawpaw, Currant and Gooseberry, Kirk Pomper
MPG.95           Apricots, A Wider Geographical Possibility, Bob Purvis?

MPG.96            Primocane Fruiting Blackberries: Origin and Potential, John
Clark
MPG.96            Novel Fruits for the Backyard & Retail Growers, Charlotte
Shelton
MPG.96           Unusual Fruits for Backyard Orchards, Heirloom and New,
Richard Moyer

MPG.97           Breeding Pears for Psylla and Fire Blight Resistance,
Richard Bell
MPG.97           Fall Bearing Black Raspberry Breeding Progress, Pete Tallman

MPG.97           Fruit Breeding for the Amateur, Felix Cooper

MPG.98           New Novel (Wild) Apples from Tien Shan, Central Asia, Diane
Miller
MPG.98          Propagating the Tough Stuff (Nuts, Pawpaws, and Persimmon),
John
                           Brittain
MPG.98          Sure-Fire Techniques for Budding Peach, Ray Armstrong

MPG.99          Banquet Speaker Pouring Cold Molasses on New Variety
Introductions: Which                                     Moves Quicker?  DR. John Clark

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