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["Mark or Helen Angermayer" <hangermayer@isp.com>]

Ditto on the blackberries Donna.  There is a PYO blackberry operation 10 miles south of us.  We picked some last summer and I had a chance to visit with the owner.  He said he doesn't spray anything.  He fertilizes the plants with one shovelful of composted manure per plant per year in addition to one application of lawn fertilizer between the rows.  He does have to irrigate a little.  His blackberry patch is 12 years old.  Last year he told me he sold $12,000 worth of berries off his one acre patch.  He grows "Chester" thornless.  The berries were good, but could have been a little sweeter.  I tasted some wild ones last summer that were better.

 

I planted a few Apache and one Arapaho last spring.  I even got to harvest two berries from one plant.  I've ordered some more of each, plus Triple Crown and Quachita for this spring.  I told myself I would stop ordering plants that have patent protection but here I go again. (all are patented except Triple Crown)

 

Mark Angermayer

Zone 5 Kansas

----- Original Message -----

From: Donna &/or Kieran

To: Bill

Cc: North American Fruit Explorers

Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:04 AM

Subject: [NAFEX] (NAFEX) Temperate berry crops

Bill,  You forgot to mention blueberries or blackberries in your list.  There are thornless blackberries that would be easier to get along with than the thorny ones, and would probably produce more than grapes.  Are you in one of the areas hard hit by Japanese beetles last summer?  If not, they are probably headed your way, and they make it very hard to keep any leaves on grapevines.  I've just been reading up on blackberries, ordered 4 kinds last year and am wondering about more, so here are some quotes from an article published in Texas:

 

" What plant is practically immune to the problems of insects and disease, yet produces one of the best jelly, jam, juice, pie, cobbler and wine fruits known to man?" 

 

"As a boy hunting in the woods of Tennessee, I never thought that I would someday praise those thorny culprits that tore my clothes, ripped my flesh and taught me to curse proficiently. But the blackberry is probably the easiest to culture, most productive, most versatile fruit in existence. These claims are easily substantiated when one considers the vim and vigor of wild plants that receive no culture."

 

 

There is little I can add to this except to say that in Tennessee's hot humid climate with it's treacherous spring frosts and wretched soil, that the one fruit that can be depended on to bear is the blackberry.  So far after 12 years of planting on sterile red clay and trying to improve the soil, I have picked 7 apples, about 30 pears, quite a few curculio riddled plums and peaches in the two years that didn't have a late freeze (one of those years I sprayed Surround till I was sick of doing it, but the rain kept washing it off), a gallon or so of rabbiteye blueberries, a few handfuls of black raspberries, and uncountable gallons of wild blackberries.  Those blackberries grew and produced abundantly on unimproved red clay with no assistance of any sort on our part.   

    The fellow I quoted above failed to mention that carefully selected blackberries are among the most delectable fruits one can eat.  I learned to pick only the ripest, plumpest fruit, and day after day for weeks each summer I'd go out and pick enough to give us a treat.  We'd crumble graham crackers in our bowls, pile in the berries and mash them with our forks.  Then we'd stir in cream cheese or sour cream or yogurt, or sometimes homemade wine in addition to the dairy or instead of. This works for just about any fresh fruit.  (Probably not for blackcurrants, from what you all are saying.)

   

I learned to wear minimal clothing and no socks to do the picking, as it seems that chiggers like fuzzy stuff to cling to.  I had almost no trouble with chiggers that way.  Eventually trees, rust, anthracnose and virus reduced the free bounty, though there is still usually enough to fill our bowls.   I'm just not getting the kind of surplus that allowed me to make gallons of wine in years past.  Sooo, I got smart and ordered some rust and anthracnose resistant varieties of tame blackberries and am looking forward to them.  That was just last year, in a drought, and the plants didn't grow much, so we'll be mostly dependent on the wild ones again this year.  These are the kinds I ordered:

Thornless Apache and Arapaho:  both highly resistant and highly praised.  One of them displayed nice reddish foliage for the fall months. 

Thorny Kiowa and Chickasaw: ditto on resistance for both.  Kiowa crops for 6 weeks, and Chickasaw is supposed to be the most heat and drought resistant, which it looks like we are going to be needing. 

 

I didn't order Triple Crown, which has received rave reviews in this group, because Simons Berry Farm didn't have it, but it doesn't seem to be noted for disease resistance.  The one drawback to all the wild berries around us is the big disease pool ready to invade our tame crops.  So resistance was my primary consideration, as I have seen how much disease has damaged the wild plants.      Donna  

   

 

 

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