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  • From: "loneroc" <loneroc@mwt.net>
  • To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] High altitude apricots - China
  • Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 05:54:39 -0500

Mr. Lanmon,

Since Bob Purvis, the NAFEX apricot interest group chair, has not weighed in
on this matter you should inquire directly with him. Bob's apricot
knowledge is boundless. I don't have his e-dress handy but I'm sure someone
on this list can forward your inquiry.

Steve H.


----- Original Message -----
From: <rivlife@securenym.net>
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] High altitude apricots - China


> Tom - Mark here. I brought some dried apricots for the Nuosu people to
> taste. They loved them and got so excited they jumped up and down like
> kids. They live in very, very remote places and up until 1956 were
> completely cut off from surrounding cultures. They have no fruit in their
> diet at present. I doubt that much in the way of agricultural exchange
> occured across the very hostile (killing each other) boundries. You may
> be right however, they could reject apricots cultivation. Mark.
>
> On Sun, August 27, 2006 9:09 pm, Thomas Olenio wrote:
> >
>
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> > Something tells me that if any kind of fruit could survive there, you
> > would already find it there.
> >
> > China has a long history of fruit/fruit breeding, and if you do not find
> > any fruit somewhere, it may just be that nothing works there.
> >
> > As an aside... What about cultural acceptance? Once you have fruit,
> > will the culture embrace it? Let me explain... My wife's company has
> > many people who come over from Japan. Though we have some of the
world's
> > best beef they reject it, and avoid it.
> >
> > Later,
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 21:12:05 -0400, <rivlife@securenym.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Richard Ashton - Mark Lanmon here. Thank you for your interest in
> >> helping the Nuosu Yi people of China. The weather data that I have is
> >> for a city that is near our people group but 3,000 feet lower
elevation.
> >> I do not
> >> know how to make adjustment for altitude. The following data is for
the
> >> city of Xichang, China:
> >>
> >> Average low temperature in degrees Fahrenheit: (please adjust
> >> +3,000ft.)
> >>
> >>
> >> Oct.55 - Nov.47 - Dec.41 - Jan.39 - Feb.42 - Mar.50
> >>
> >>
> >> Average precipitation in inches: (please adjust +3,000ft.)
> >>
> >>
> >> Jan.0.3 - Feb.0.4 - Mar.1.1 - Apr.1.2 - May3.4 - Jun.10.7
> >>
> >>
> >> Jul.7.1 - Aug.8.2 - Sep.9.1 - Oct.4.4 - Nov.1.3 - Dec.0.1
> >>
> >>
> >> I have been told that this is too much rainfall for apricots. Because
> >> I
> >> have so much seed from northern Pakistan, my hope is that a few of the
> >> seeds will have the right genetics to survive. I am an amature at this
> >> so I very much appreciate all the advice you can give. Thank you
again
> >> for wanting to help the Nuosu people. They currently have no fruit in
> >> their diet. Your friend, Mark.
> >>
> >> On Sat, August 26, 2006 8:11 pm, MARIE ASHTON wrote:
> >>
> >>> One question, how many chill hours do they get there? That is how
> >>> many hours does the temperature get below 45 degrees Fahrenheit (thats
> >>> 7.2
> >>> degrees Celsius) in the winter. If it is a mountainous area close to
> >>> Tibet
> >>> it should get a large amount of chill hours. Also what is the
> >>> wintertime low (on average) temperature? You may need a cold hardy
> >>> type. I presume you know that the apricot is native to China and there
> >>> are many varieties in that country. The only impovement that you might
> >>> get in getting European/American varieties is size. The E/A varieties
> >>> are generally much larger than the Asian varieties. Regards, Richard
> >>> Ashton
> >>> Oak Creek Orchard
> >>> www.oakcreekorchard.com bwoodtx@verizon.net
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: <rivlife@securenym.net>
> >>> To: <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 5:01 AM
> >>> Subject: [NAFEX] High altitude apricots - China
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hello. I'm a new member of Nafex looking for those interested in
> >>>> corrisponding with us concerning establishment of apricot in the
> >>>> high mountains to the southeast of the Tibetian Plateau in China.
> >>>> My wife
> >>>> Mary
> >>>> and I are helping a people group called the Nuosu Yi. Your new
> >>>> friend, Mark.
> >>>>
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