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  • From: rivlife@securenym.net
  • To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] High altitude apricots - China
  • Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 21:45:34 -0500 (CDT)

Tom - Mark here. I brought some dried apricots for the Nuosu people to
taste. They loved them and got so excited they jumped up and down like
kids. They live in very, very remote places and up until 1956 were
completely cut off from surrounding cultures. They have no fruit in their
diet at present. I doubt that much in the way of agricultural exchange
occured across the very hostile (killing each other) boundries. You may
be right however, they could reject apricots cultivation. Mark.

On Sun, August 27, 2006 9:09 pm, Thomas Olenio wrote:
>

> Hello,
>
>
> Something tells me that if any kind of fruit could survive there, you
> would already find it there.
>
> China has a long history of fruit/fruit breeding, and if you do not find
> any fruit somewhere, it may just be that nothing works there.
>
> As an aside... What about cultural acceptance? Once you have fruit,
> will the culture embrace it? Let me explain... My wife's company has
> many people who come over from Japan. Though we have some of the world's
> best beef they reject it, and avoid it.
>
> Later,
> Tom
>
>
> On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 21:12:05 -0400, <rivlife@securenym.net> wrote:
>
>
>> Richard Ashton - Mark Lanmon here. Thank you for your interest in
>> helping the Nuosu Yi people of China. The weather data that I have is
>> for a city that is near our people group but 3,000 feet lower elevation.
>> I do not
>> know how to make adjustment for altitude. The following data is for the
>> city of Xichang, China:
>>
>> Average low temperature in degrees Fahrenheit: (please adjust
>> +3,000ft.)
>>
>>
>> Oct.55 - Nov.47 - Dec.41 - Jan.39 - Feb.42 - Mar.50
>>
>>
>> Average precipitation in inches: (please adjust +3,000ft.)
>>
>>
>> Jan.0.3 - Feb.0.4 - Mar.1.1 - Apr.1.2 - May3.4 - Jun.10.7
>>
>>
>> Jul.7.1 - Aug.8.2 - Sep.9.1 - Oct.4.4 - Nov.1.3 - Dec.0.1
>>
>>
>> I have been told that this is too much rainfall for apricots. Because
>> I
>> have so much seed from northern Pakistan, my hope is that a few of the
>> seeds will have the right genetics to survive. I am an amature at this
>> so I very much appreciate all the advice you can give. Thank you again
>> for wanting to help the Nuosu people. They currently have no fruit in
>> their diet. Your friend, Mark.
>>
>> On Sat, August 26, 2006 8:11 pm, MARIE ASHTON wrote:
>>
>>> One question, how many chill hours do they get there? That is how
>>> many hours does the temperature get below 45 degrees Fahrenheit (thats
>>> 7.2
>>> degrees Celsius) in the winter. If it is a mountainous area close to
>>> Tibet
>>> it should get a large amount of chill hours. Also what is the
>>> wintertime low (on average) temperature? You may need a cold hardy
>>> type. I presume you know that the apricot is native to China and there
>>> are many varieties in that country. The only impovement that you might
>>> get in getting European/American varieties is size. The E/A varieties
>>> are generally much larger than the Asian varieties. Regards, Richard
>>> Ashton
>>> Oak Creek Orchard
>>> www.oakcreekorchard.com bwoodtx@verizon.net
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <rivlife@securenym.net>
>>> To: <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 5:01 AM
>>> Subject: [NAFEX] High altitude apricots - China
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello. I'm a new member of Nafex looking for those interested in
>>>> corrisponding with us concerning establishment of apricot in the
>>>> high mountains to the southeast of the Tibetian Plateau in China.
>>>> My wife
>>>> Mary
>>>> and I are helping a people group called the Nuosu Yi. Your new
>>>> friend, Mark.
>>>>
>>>>
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