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["Dennis Norton" <dmnorton@royaloakfarmorchard.com>]

Stephen,

We used the small circle traps with   a pheromone/plum scent lure from Great 
Lakes IPM.  The apple tree trunks were not painted white and we used Assail 
followed by an Imidan spray 2 weeks later.  2 weeks later we followed the 
same regimen, assail followed by Imidan as we were also experiencing a high 
CM (codling moth) count that was way above our threshold.

IPM is the choice of most orchards that I have come in contact with 
throughout the Midwest as well as eastern states such as New York.  I am 
involved with a training program that is being conducted by John Aue, our 
contracted entomologist from Wisconsin.  There are many orchards in 
southern/southeastern Wisconsin being trained by John through the Wisconsin 
Eco-Apple Project (http://www.thinkipm.org/apples/).  Since we consult with 
John, he has been training me as part of our contracted services with him. 
This will give you an idea of what's happening with IPM in our area.

If you have more questions, just ask!

Royal Oak Farm Orchard
http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.com
http://www.theorchardkeeper.blogspot.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephen Sadler" <Docshiva@Docshiva.org>
To: "'Dennis Norton'" <dmnorton@royaloakfarmorchard.com>; "'North American 
Fruit Explorers'" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Inexpensive Plum Curculio lure


> Dennis,
>
> Your comments are always worth a lot.  You used the tall Tedders traps,
> along with a pheromone/plum scent lure?  Were the tree trunks painted 
> white?
> Did you use Surround?
>
> I'm hoping that that combination will be fairly effective.  There are new
> lures in development that may improve things.
>
> I was also impressed by a study that burned away the underbrush, cooking 
> the
> curculios - but there is the obvious danger, and no major trials.
>
> Before our coop was able to go all organic, we permitted IPM foods where
> that was the best option - timed pesticide exposures for the lowest use. 
> On
> a realistic level, IPM can test cleaner for pesticides and herbicides than
> organic, depending on degree of drift from other spray operations.  One
> local grocery pays for produce testing and markets foods that have no
> detectible residues.  Those are usually IPM.
>
> There's not much out here now that can't be grown organically.  I wonder 
> if
> IPM (limited use of Imidan, for example) is as respected back east as it
> used to be here in the land of fruits and nuts?
>
> Stephen Sadler
> USDA 9, AHS heat zone 8,
> Sacramento CA - Mediterranean climate
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Norton
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:52 PM
> To: North American Fruit Explorers
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Inexpensive Plum Curculio lure
>
> This season we thought we would use the Great Lakes traps and lures on
> recommendation of our contracted entomologist.  Spent several hundred
> dollars and never caught a single PC but had plenty of fruit damage.  In 
> the
>
> past 15 years, Royal Oak Farm has never found a good trap and lure that
> works.  The good ole "shake the tree and see what falls" method has proved
> more valuable than any trap we have used.  We got more damage using the
> traps this year than ever before.  Next year, we go back to shakin'!
>
> For what it's worth!!
>
> Dennis Norton
> Royal Oak Farm Orchard
> http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.com
> http://www.theorchardkeeper.blogspot.com