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[Ginda Fisher <list@ginda.us>]

For an even creepier hypothesis as to the origin of mad cow  
disease. . .There was an article in "New Scientist" a few months ago  
suggesting that British cattle feed contained animal material from  
bones, etc. collected in India, along the river.  Along the same  
river that is used to dispose of human bodies.    Apparently the  
timing of the mad cow disease outbreak corresponds pretty well to  
when Britain was importing a lot of this material.  So it might have  
been regular human CJD that got modified when passed through cows.

Ginda


On Dec 23, 2005, at 10:24 PM, kieran or donna wrote:

> Sunshine Lemme wrote:
>
> Let me know when there is some scientific evidence like there is  
> for prions.
>
>
>
> Sunshine obviously didn't read the article, as it contains a great  
> deal
> of scientific evidence that Phosmet plus high Manganese causes  
> prions to
> deform and thus cause Mad Cow Disease.  Here are excerpts:
>     " Ironically, both my own studies and those of Dr. David Brown
> largely open up the final door of evidence in support of Prisiner's
> concept. We have shown what causes the prion protein to transform into
> its protease-resistant form (the disease-associated form).  Prisiner
> himself is skeptical of "the-BSE-feed-caused-new-variant-CJD"
> hypotheses. He was the only person (apart from myself) who suggested
> this to the BSE inquiry!"
>     "Follow-up trials by Case Western University in Cleveland and a
> French team of scientists provided further confirmation. Both  
> groups ran
> postmortem analyses of brain tissue taken from those who had died of
> conventional CJD. These tests revealed the same pattern of
> high-manganese, low-copper as identified in TSE food chains, a tenfold
> increase of manganese levels and 50 percent reduction in copper in
> relation to control brains drawn from those who had died of natural
> causes "
>     I'm interested in trace mineral interactions anyway, so Lucky  
> and I
> have discussed this matter in the past.  An interesting little  
> tidbit is
> that the continental breeds of cattle now being raised in England
> require 10X the copper that the native breeds need.  The article on  
> the
> Price Foundation site is very interesting reading, I recommend it  
> to you
> all.  It certainly made me feel better about eating meat or handling
> dogfood or anything that might have come from not-so-healthy cattle.
> The British govt and ICI would be liable for billions for their
> mandatory warble control program using ICI's special formula, so they
> absolutely do not want to fund any  research showing that they screwed
> up.  Whereas, if the USDA or the American beef industry wanted to
> further this research and publicize it, it would be very good for
> American farmers.
>     As for using Phosmet yourself, I highly recommend that you not
> dribble 14% oil soluble Phosmet down your spine 4X a year while living
> at a high altitude and indulging in a diet high in chicken manure.  I
> think if you follow these simple precautions that you'll be alright.
>   Donna
>
>
> > Sunshine Lemme
> > Principal, Long Island Emergency
> > www.longislandemergency.com
> > EMT-Critical Care, Firefighter, HazMat Tech
> > Montauk Firefighter of the Year 2002
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> > Graduate Student in Emergency Management
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> > [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Heron Breen
> > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:19 PM
> > To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> > Subject: [NAFEX] Phosmet and warble fly
> >
> > Well folks,
> > About six months ago, I posted a vague bit about phosmet, some of  
> > our's
> > beloved
> > Imidan, having potential links to "mad-cow". Here is an article by  
> > one of
> > the
> > farmer guys who started wondering. Another amateur scientist/ 
> > farmer who
> > plays what
> > if and enlists the help of some "real" scientists to try his  
> > theories. The
> > article
> > shows phosmet may have played a co-direct role in cow infection, but
> > presents many
> > other variables for other mammals. For fruit growers, I don't know  
> > if it
> > conclusively says one way or the other whether we should be  
> > concerned or
> > cautious
> > about Imidan. Take it as hearsay, do your own googling, find  
> > opposing view
> > points
> > or pages that say "crackpot" to all below. Still a good read, and  
> > thought
> > prevoking. Definitely makes me leary of ANY residual Imidan  
> > exposure upon
> > the
> > person spraying. Enjoy!
> > Link to
> > http://www.westonaprice.org/mythstruths/mtmadcow2.html#purdey
> > sincerely
> > Heron Breen
> > zone 4, Maine
> >
> >
> >
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