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[kieran or donna <redherring@tnaccess.com>]

Sunshine Lemme wrote:

Let me know when there is some scientific evidence like there is for prions.



Sunshine obviously didn't read the article, as it contains a great deal 
of scientific evidence that Phosmet plus high Manganese causes prions to 
deform and thus cause Mad Cow Disease.  Here are excerpts:
   " Ironically, both my own studies and those of Dr. David Brown 
largely open up the final door of evidence in support of Prisiner's 
concept. We have shown what causes the prion protein to transform into 
its protease-resistant form (the disease-associated form).  Prisiner 
himself is skeptical of "the-BSE-feed-caused-new-variant-CJD" 
hypotheses. He was the only person (apart from myself) who suggested 
this to the BSE inquiry!"
   "Follow-up trials by Case Western University in Cleveland and a 
French team of scientists provided further confirmation. Both groups ran 
postmortem analyses of brain tissue taken from those who had died of 
conventional CJD. These tests revealed the same pattern of 
high-manganese, low-copper as identified in TSE food chains, a tenfold 
increase of manganese levels and 50 percent reduction in copper in 
relation to control brains drawn from those who had died of natural 
causes "
   I'm interested in trace mineral interactions anyway, so Lucky and I 
have discussed this matter in the past.  An interesting little tidbit is 
that the continental breeds of cattle now being raised in England 
require 10X the copper that the native breeds need.  The article on the 
Price Foundation site is very interesting reading, I recommend it to you 
all.  It certainly made me feel better about eating meat or handling 
dogfood or anything that might have come from not-so-healthy cattle.  
The British govt and ICI would be liable for billions for their 
mandatory warble control program using ICI's special formula, so they 
absolutely do not want to fund any  research showing that they screwed 
up.  Whereas, if the USDA or the American beef industry wanted to 
further this research and publicize it, it would be very good for 
American farmers. 
   As for using Phosmet yourself, I highly recommend that you not 
dribble 14% oil soluble Phosmet down your spine 4X a year while living 
at a high altitude and indulging in a diet high in chicken manure.  I 
think if you follow these simple precautions that you'll be alright. 
 Donna


> Sunshine Lemme
> Principal, Long Island Emergency
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Heron Breen
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:19 PM
> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [NAFEX] Phosmet and warble fly
>
> Well folks,
> About six months ago, I posted a vague bit about phosmet, some of our's
> beloved 
> Imidan, having potential links to "mad-cow". Here is an article by one of
> the 
> farmer guys who started wondering. Another amateur scientist/farmer who
> plays what 
> if and enlists the help of some "real" scientists to try his theories. The
> article 
> shows phosmet may have played a co-direct role in cow infection, but
> presents many 
> other variables for other mammals. For fruit growers, I don't know if it 
> conclusively says one way or the other whether we should be concerned or
> cautious 
> about Imidan. Take it as hearsay, do your own googling, find opposing view
> points 
> or pages that say "crackpot" to all below. Still a good read, and thought 
> prevoking. Definitely makes me leary of ANY residual Imidan exposure upon
> the 
> person spraying. Enjoy!
> Link to
> http://www.westonaprice.org/mythstruths/mtmadcow2.html#purdey
> sincerely
> Heron Breen
> zone 4, Maine
>
>
>
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