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  • From: Heron Breen <breen@fedcoseeds.com>
  • To: griffingardens@earthlink.net, North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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  • Subject: RE: [NAFEX] Bailey's nursery Peach Rootstock
  • Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:44:59 -0500

Thanks Dave for this in depth report. I will definitely be trying some peach
budded on Prunus americana. And I had wondered if Bailey's nursery had an
edible,
Bailey cultivar. I really valued this info Dave, thanks again.
Heron Breen
zone 4, Maine

On Sun Jun 12 11:24 , 'Dave Griffin' <griffingardens@earthlink.net> sent:

>Heron,
> I bought 3 of these peaches from Baileys Nursery in 2001 and it was these
>I was reporting on in my response to your stonefruit rootstock inquiry
>earlier this spring. They do one cultivar, 'Bailey', on P.a. It is the old
>hardy peach from Iowa and not anything that they have developed or that
>came from the nursery, as is the case with 'McKay' peach from McKay nursery
>in WI. Bailey peach has been seed propagated in IA since the late 1800's
>and the old records of the IA Hort Society contain heated arguments between
>members over the virtues of seedling vs. grafted trees with a lot of
>support for the seedlings. The result is that there is a wide variety of
>Baileys out there, but the primary one or ones are in widespread use as a
>rootstock tree, and these have virtually inedible small fruit. The Bailey
>race that Bailey Nursery has selected for propagation on P.a. is an
>excellent old fashioned peach: soft, sweet, fuzzy, very juicy, with good
>peach flavor. It is variable in size up to 3" and has a slight red blush on
>the sun side. It bruises very easily and could not be shipped across the
>street, but who would want to ship it anywhere.
> Because 'Bailey' is compatible doesn't mean other cultivars would be, but
>my experience with Hardired nectarine, Redhaven and some other seedling
>trees has been good. And, as I mentioned before, some cultivars that have
>been difficult to bud on conventional peach stocks have taken easily and
>been completely compatible so far on P.a.
> That having been said, I don't know that a tree is any hardier for being
>grown on P.a., except that the rootstock itself it hardy and won't freeze
>out. Here is my record for the original 3 trees, the first died after the
>snowless -17 F winter of '01-'02. Both the remaining trees survived '03-'04
>at -29 F but one suffered severe trunk damage and died this winter having
>been depleted by canker. The remaining tree grows in a location with winter
>shade and is a healthy survivor after last year's -23F, although all the
>flower buds were killed. So the paltry evidence from my little sample is
>that growing in a winter shade location is a greater hardiness benefit than
>P.a. rootstock. Supporting that is the fact that subsequent grafts of this
>same Bailey on Siberian C and other hardy plum rootstocks have performed
>similarly to those on P.a.
> I see the usual deficiencies of P.a. as a rootstock in that there is
>excessive suckering and scion overgrowth. It makes no apparent contribution
>to the tree's ability to withstand trunk injury - my primary cause of death
>and winter damage. So I am continuing to test what I believe to be the best
>combination for peaches in cold climates - to bud them high (18" to24") on
>hardy Siberian C rootstocks that can withstand the cold without trunk
>injury. This addresses my consistent observation that the twigs and
>branches have proven to be hardy in the same years that the trunks, the
>last thing to harden off, have been killed. It is the trunks that are the
>weakest link and the rootstocks, as they are the most protected being
>underground, the strongest.
>
>Dave
>zone 4a, central MN
>
>
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Heron Breen breen@fedcoseeds.com>
>> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Date: 6/9/05 11:31:33 AM
>> Subject: [NAFEX] Bailey's nursery Peach Rootstock
>>
>> An interesting addendum to our Stonefruit Discussion:
>>
>> Baileys Nursery, the largest cold hardy wholesale nursery operation in
>the US,
>>
>> lists two different rootstock for it Peach vartiety offerings.
>>
>> Standard is budded on Prunus americana!
>>
>> Semi-dwarf budded on Myrobalan.
>>
>> I have not called to check if Prunus americana is a misprint, but if not
>it shows
>>
>> a evry large nursery is taking the risk concerning rejection and they may
>know
>>
>> something others do not. I am very surprised at this choice!
>>
>> Heron Breen
>>
>> zone 4, Maine
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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