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["O'Barr, R. D." <topgun@otelco.net>]

As an interesting note on Manganese, Pecans can range from 200 ppm to 4,000
ppm and still perform normally. The trees pick up a lot more in the wetter
soils.
Topgun
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kieran or donna" <redherring@tnaccess.com>
To: <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 10:47 PM
Subject: [NAFEX] copper as nutrient or -cide


> Tanis,  No these articles are too long to post here.  I have had to cut
one
> of them up when I posted it on a big group, (3,000 members so I didn't
want
> to send it out individually.)   I may have offered one or both here
before,
> and I certainly have had one of them posted on two other groups I am on.
I
> would be curious to hear people's results in trying the tests.  For
example,
> I have a massage client who was headed for a very stressful class, so I
gave
> her the taste tests for electrolytes.  She noted that magnesium always
> tasted good to her, finally concluded she had a constant need for Mg.
Some
> 6 mo later I noticed a lot of small bruises, and she said she was taking
an
> aspirin a day because it's supposed to be good for your heart. I asked if
> she knew the inside dirt on that study:  the British did the same study
and
> got no effect.  The difference between the two studies is that the
American
> one used Bufferin, not plain aspirin, and Bufferin contains magnesium,
which
> has been proved in numerous studies to be good for heart health.  Well,
she
> liked that, as she is already taking the Mg, so decided to dispense with
the
> aspirin regimen.
>     My sister kept her blood pressure under control for 4 years after
> reading about these taste tests.  All she did was take vinegar, and she
> said, "I know it's working, because every time I quit, my blood pressure
> goes up again."   10 years later, she said her BP was out of control, and
it
> turned out she had completely forgotten about the vinegar having
controlled
> it before.   Dr. Lendon Smith published these simple tests in his book
FEED
> YOUR BODY RIGHT, as a natural control for blood pressure.  I give his
tests,
> but my article mostly discusses other deficiency symptoms, things like dry
> mouth, short term memory loss, lack of focus, insomnia.
>     There's a line of interesting products called... hmm,can't remember,
> they are metallic particles ground superfine and suspended in water. I met
a
> guy selling them and asked if I could taste them.  He was curious too
after
> I told him a little about taste testing.  I asked what they tasted like,
he
> said not much taste except the chromium tasted a bit metallic.  I found
the
> chromium tasted very sweet, (I bought a bottle of cheap chromium capsules
on
> my way home  as his solutions seemed expensive)  As for the sulfur, I
could
> have drunk the whole bottle.  I had noticed a long time ago that anything
> with sulfur in it seemed good for me.  I didn't like the silver, and don't
> think silver is good for me.  Nothing else he had seemed to have much
taste.
> I had told him at the beginning that I couldn't take the copper, but we
both
> got curious.  I put just a drop on my tongue, was still spitting 10
minutes
> later.  Finally an hour later went out to my car and chewed up a zinc
> gluconate, normally not a pleasant experience, but it stopped the metallic
> taste.
>     If our plants could just tell us what the soil tastes like to them,
we
> could get maximum growth and production out of them.  Incidentally, I have
> read that farmers used to taste soil to see if it was sweet or sour.  That
> reminds me.  Five years ago I grafted a native persimmon from about 20
miles
> away to one of our half grown trees, and it still hasn't bloomed.  A
psychic
> told me that the trees roots are recoiling from something in the soil that
> is too much for it, like it was "too rich" in that substance.  Our soil is
> very acid below the 6-8" that we have limed, and I know some people have
> said that Mn excess may be killing kakis on acid southern soils.  Our corn
> suffers Mn deficiency annually, so I don't think we have any great
surplus,
> though I realise that pH has more effect than anything on Mn availability.
> Of course it could be anything, since there was logging there.   None of
the
> other young persimmons on our land have made a crop except one, and it
> doesn't do much.  It has it's roots in the edge of the garden, so should
be
> doing better.  The very few persimmons in our area have poor crops, and
one
> had only marble sized fruit.  Sorry I keep harping on this worthless
> laterite clay we have, but that's the way it is.  The trees all complained
> to my psychic friend about the soil too.    Donna
>
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