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  • From: Katherine Russell <Katherine.Russell@oberlin.edu>
  • To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] persimmon flowers
  • Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:54:00 -0500

If you have a female tree, and you graft some male to it, does the male part "remember" its identity? Or does it pick up some cue from the tree it is in and become female, or sterile, or perhaps not take at all?

This is of interest to me not only b/c there is a nice persimmon around here I hope to raft or layer a piece of... but because I'm interested in several other dioeceous plants and wondered if there's a way around having multiple trees of each.

Best - KR

Lon Rombough wrote:

Persimmon cuttings (dormant ones, at least) are very hard to root. They graft very easily, though.

Some persimmons, especially ones related to "Early Golden" will often produce limbs of male flowers. This is NOT a stable trait - graft a new tree from the male limb and it will go back to being female. When the tree matures, it can again produce a stray limb of male flowers now and then. There are also male trees that will produce small, seedless fruit, and a very few "males" that will produce some female and some PERFECT flowers. "Szukis" is one of these. Jim Claypool's "F-100" is another. There are efforts going on to breed perfect flowered persimmons, using these odd types as a basis.
-Lon Rombough

On Nov 11, 2004, at 8:53 PM, David W Hausmann wrote:

'Ello [Bad fake English accent][No offense meant], All!

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So if I take cuttings from the female tree I should be able to get them

to root
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Will cuttings from persimmons root? Also, the garden guy on PBS stated
that small willow twigs, about the diameter of your little finger, soaked
in water will produce a liquid that enhances root growth in cuttings.
Does anyone know if that works?

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and they'll stick to being female.
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Will they stay female? One article I read said that persimmon trees can
have mainly female flowers but one or two branches of male flowers on the
same tree. True? Also, can persimmons be grafted so that you have both
on one tree?

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