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  • From: "tanis cuff" <tanistanis@hotmail.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Grow fruit higher than deer can reach?
  • Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 15:22:10 +0000

Southern WI deer (corn-fed whitetails) are EASILY prevented from doing only one thing and that is the antler damage. Bucks avoid all but the "just right" small trunks, and just about any scraps of chicken wire or even a couple rounds of wire at the correct height will send them elsewhere.

tc




From: "Sam Brungardt" <sam739is@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Grow fruit higher than deer can reach?
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 05:22:04 -0600

I don't know about chicken wire stopping the bucks cleaning the velvet off their antlers. It may only make the bucks like the protective device more than the unprotected tree. When a buck is determined to cleaning his antlers, my experience (in Kansas) is that little will deter him.



From: "del stubbs" <pinewoodel@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Grow fruit higher than deer can reach?
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:55:57 +0000









My origional idea 5 years ago was to grow a one acre orchard that the deer pruned. However, I could see no way to grow the trees above deer's reach without fencing them first, so I did this last fall. The trees were in chicken wire cages till then, they are about 6' tall.
Then I thought about being 70 years old and climbing up a 16' 3-legged ladder on a steep hillside.........and decided to prune 'em closer to the ground!
I still have plenty of flat land suitable to tall apples so am interested in the tall tree tubes, didn't know there were 6' ones. My thoughts about 'skinny tree weakness' (caused by a tree not waving in the wind) would be to double stake it once it is 8', and slowly let out the binder that wraps the tree between the stakes. No?
I think chicken wire would stop any velvet rubbing / trunk chewing deer.
Wouldn't a wash in a weak clorox type solution rid any dropps from e.coli?
One post commnented that cattle are good for an apple tree, isn't their soil compaction a real problem?
A useful thread, Del






Del Stubbs www.pinewoodforge.com ag zone2/3








From: Rick Valley <bamboogrove@cmug.com>
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To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Grow fruit higher than deer can reach?
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 20:18:47 -0700


> So, what's your opinion? Possible? Practical or impractical?

If you can create a mini-bramble thicket around the young trees, they will
grow with a better form and less deer damage on the way to being savannah
climax trees- this is essentially what you can see happening in untended
fencerows.
And the final result will be what you see in many pastures; cows are
actually quite good at increasing fertility in the shade of a (HUGE) apple
tree.
And tagging back to fruit trees for timber- you'll get a 6-8ft saw log in
the end.
It'll work quite well until we successfully reintroduce elephants to N.
America.

-Rick

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