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  • From: hector black <hblack@twlakes.net>
  • To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] olive trees found in Bulgaria at -4'F
  • Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:56:42 -0800

Title: Re: [NAFEX] olive trees found in Bulgaria at -4'F
I'll be dipped! That really does look like an olive.  I don't know anything about propagation.  Any information about the size and quality of the fruit?  With global warming, we should be able to grow them in many places although I know they don't like high humidity.  I have a correspondent in Croatia who told me about a hardy olive they had, but he couldn't remember where he had seen it.  Maybe in Bulgaria??  That's a great find, in any case, Mark.  Must be something, somewhere on propagation - California Rare Fruit Growers should have some info.
    Hector Black, zone 6 middle TN
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Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] olive trees found in Bulgaria at -4'F

I'm halfway suspicious that it might be Russian Olive (Eleagnus), but I can't tell enough from the picture.  Hector Black?  You can probably tell.
   Even if it is an olive, that doesn't mean it will bear.  I had an uncle who had a peach tree in Iowa where peaches shouldn't grow, but this one did.  But it never bore because the fruit buds are more tender than the leaf buds and they froze every year.  The result was a beautiful vigorous, non-bearing peach tree.  Might be the same with the olive - it would grow, but the flower buds might be frozen out.
   As to the fig, I have a Desert King that has survived 0 F without freezing off.  The trick is to grow it in a dry location to force it to harden off well.
-Lon Rombough
Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, The Grape Grower, at http://www.bunchgrapes.com

From: "Mark Lee" <markl@nytec.com>
Reply-To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 08:54:16 -0800
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: [NAFEX] olive trees found in Bulgaria at -4'F


http://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/msg/42578.html

The link above is by a person in Bulgaria that has found olive trees growing
at a local agricultural university.  There are two picures given.  One is a
fig tree that died in a previous extremely cold winter.  The other is of an
olive that survived under the same conditions.  The olive tree appears to be
thriving, from the photo.  Recent temperature in Bulgaria is near 0'F.  I
did some research recently that indicated that the hardiest olive trees
could only survive down to about 10'F.  This is proof that there are a few
olive trees that are even hardier than that.  No mention was made of the
fruit it produces, if it happens at all.  I hope this guy can propogate it
and start sharing it with others.

Postings at this message board are not archived, and in a couple of weeks it
will be gone.  I have made a copy of it for my own reference at
http://home.earthlink.net/~piper3/HardyOlives2.htm.

-Mark Lee, Seattle, z7b/8a

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