Hi
My feijoa have seen 18 F with no problem. I
hear 0 F could be the lower limit for them.
Pete zone 8b LA
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Today's Topics:
1.
Re: Cherry plums (Helga and Bert Dunn) 2. Minor fruit
options--Small trees; Viburnum exploring (Moyer, Richard) 3.
Geneva 16 (Mike Levine) 4. Re: Geneva 16 (Dr. Ethan
Natelson) 5. feijoa in TN? (buretachi@juno.com) 6.
Re: Minor fruit options--Small trees; Viburnum exploring (rob
hamilton) 7. RE: feijoa in TN?
(jamie)
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Message: 1 From: "Helga and Bert Dunn"
<helbert@idirect.com> To:
<nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> Date:
Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:43:32 -0500 Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Cherry
plums Reply-To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Hello
Tom Not much help now, however Siloam Nursery will have stock matured in 2
years .. They're east of
Newmarket
Bert
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Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003
8:07 AM Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Cherry plums
>
Hi, > > It is finding someone willing to ship bare root stock in
Canada. The only > source I found wanted to ship a potted
plant. A little pricy to pay more > for shipping dirt, than the
plant itself. > > No luck in rooting cuttings from the Genebank
either. > > Still looking for a local or bare root
source. > > Later, >
Tom
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Message: 2 From: "Moyer, Richard"
<ramoyer@king.edu> To: "'nafex@lists.ibiblio.org'" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> Date:
Fri, 10 Jan 2003 16:40:19 -0500 Subject: [NAFEX] Minor fruit options--Small
trees; Viburnum exploring Reply-To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Robert
wrote: "I have each of these too, though I guess I can get more. I
have the Aronia too, but ones I got last summer tasted like a raw coffie
bean. I was not pleased. I will give it another year so
I will have enough to do something with."
Robert, You may wait a
long time for pleasant tasting raw aronia berries. Others have placed
aronia in the category of "flavor improves with cooking"; I'd put most
black currants in there as well. As noted before, we use a few aronia
berries in with white grapes while juicing, for better color
and antioxidant levels.
Now that you have a variety of bush fruits
in, have your included these small tree options? Viburnum: The
local wild ones are pretty good in Nov, but insipid later. Adam Turtle
mentioned a PA grower who had selected ones for better flavor. Any Fruit
Explorers out there with superior nannyberry selections? Jujube:
Small tree, some forms columnar. Striking shiny foliage,
drought resistance. Elderberry: improves with cooking Cornus mas:
outstanding ornamental, striking fruits, good fresh if ripe enough, or
cooked Yellowhorn: nice bloom and foliage, has trouble bearing?? in the
east?? Kaki persimmons (dwarf): Another fine ornamental Mayhaw:
may need to be sprayed for rust Hovenia dulcis: small to med tree,
nice leaves Poncirus trifoliata: some forms with reduced bitterness
available
Anyone else with other recommendations in the small tree
fruit category?
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Message: 3 Date: Sat, 11 Jan
2003 00:15:30 -0500 From: Mike Levine <mlevine@umich.edu> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org Subject:
[NAFEX] Geneva 16 Reply-To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
I've
been poring over catalogs trying to figure out this year's order and just
when I thought I would order trees on Bud 9 my friend suggested that Geneva
16 might be a superior rootstock. Any thoughts on this?
Mike
Levine Ann Arbor, MI zone 5b
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Message:
4 To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org From:
"Dr. Ethan Natelson" <natelson@pipeline.com> Subject:
Re: [NAFEX] Geneva 16 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 07:31:20 -0500 Reply-To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Dear
Mike,
In the lead article of the most recent
edition of Compact Fruit Tree, the publication of the International Dwarf
Fruit Tree Association, the authors indicate the advantages of G-16 over M
9 are better fireblight resistance and slightly better yield. The
downside is the extreme sensitivity to latent viruses in the grafted scion
which can abruptly kill the tree. I have had that happen here in
Houston. Thus, grafted wood must be virus free. They also claim
that it is not yet clear if G-16 is cold hardy.
Regards, Ethan
At 12:15 AM 1/11/03 -0500, you wrote: >I've been
poring over catalogs trying to figure out this year's order and >just
when I thought I would order trees on Bud 9 my friend suggested
that >Geneva 16 might be a superior rootstock. Any thoughts on
this? > >Mike Levine >Ann Arbor, MI >zone
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Sat, 11 Jan 2003 08:40:21 EST From: buretachi@juno.com Subject: [NAFEX]
feijoa in TN? Reply-To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Hector,
How
cold of a freeze have your feijoa survived? How old are they and have
they ever flowered or fruited? We saw some growing as a hedge
at the Norfolk Botanical Garden--beautiful. I have some small potted
plants that i might eventually try putting outside here in PA zone 6 in
a sheltered location.
Scott
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Message:
6 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 07:40:57 -0800 (PST) From: rob hamilton <lostman_amiga@yahoo.com> Subject:
Re: [NAFEX] Minor fruit options--Small trees; Viburnum exploring To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org Reply-To:
nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
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"Moyer, Richard" <ramoyer@king.edu> wrote: > You may
have to wait along time for pleasant tasting raw > aronia
berries. Others > have placed aronia in the category of
"flavor > improves with cooking"; I'd > put most black currants in
there as well. As noted > before, we use a few > aronia
berries in with white grapes while juicing, > for better color
and > antioxidant levels.
I got a few Crandells too. I hope they
turn out a little better than the Aronia. Once I get a few Aronia
berries in quantity, I will experiment a bit. > Now that
you have a variety of bush fruits in, have > your included these >
small tree options? > Viburnum: The local wild ones are pretty
good in > Nov, but insipid later. > Adam Turtle mentioned a PA
grower who had selected > ones for better flavor.
I dont know
about these. You got any other details?
> Any Fruit Explorers out
there with superior > nannyberry selections?
>
Jujube: Small tree, some forms columnar. Striking > shiny
foliage, drought > resistance.
I have two of these. "Ling"
and "Li" I may get few more. This is one of my favorite looking trees. I
want to get the "So" contorted variety just for an ornamental.
> Elderberry: improves with cooking
I made pie with some
last week. Its not that bad, kind of seedy though. Your right about
calling it small tree. The canes get quite large.
> Cornus mas:
outstanding ornamental, striking fruits, > good fresh if ripe >
enough, or cooked
I got two small ones. I have yet to get any fruit.
I hope to see some this year. I also have Corus Kousa. I tasted an
unnamed variety I saw in the city a while back. It was kinda mealy, but
not that bad. Very pretty tree, so I thought I would give it
try.
> Yellowhorn: nice bloom and foliage, has trouble >
bearing?? in the east??
I have one samll one, but I have not got any
nuts. I think it will take while. I am told the nuts are not thar
special though.
> Kaki persimmons (dwarf): Another fine
ornamental
Oh yes! I love persimmons. Fellow member Lester Davis has
got me hooked. I plan to have five.
> Mayhaw: may need to be
sprayed for rust
I'm not a jelly/jam person, but I told its nice
in other things too. Does anyone else do anything with
Mayhaw?
> Hovenia dulcis: small to med tree, nice
leaves
I got a few of these too. I am very curious about these. I
find the fruit very tasty, but I am not sure what to with them. I
assume you can use them like raisins, but I keep reading about a
drink called "tree honey" that is made from it, But I havent found a
recipe for it.
> Poncirus trifoliata: some forms with
reduced > bitterness available
I got a number of these in pots.
The Thomasville Citragequat is one I hear is especially good for my
area, and the fruit is not that bad out of hand. I am going to try some
kumquats too, but those I may have to protect.
> > Anyone
else with other recommendations in the small > tree fruit
category? Well, a friend of mind have a dwarf loquat that he
is trying to get some fruit out of the trouble is that the fruits in the
winter. I am looking for a variety that will escape the cold, but I am
not having much luck. There are some breeding programs in China that
may have some varieties that might work. I need to go up to Univ of
Georgia to track down this article that was written one of the pricey
horticultural periodicals about some new hardy Loquat
cultivars.
I wonder if one could limb-up a
chinquapin chestnut or a small filbert to a small
tree?
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Message:
7 From: "jamie" <jamie@tiscali.fr> To: <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> Subject:
RE: [NAFEX] feijoa in TN? Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:57:07
+0100 Reply-To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Hello
all, I've been following the discussion for a month or more now, enjoying
hearing about the many fruits and trees I've never even heard of before. I
plan an orchard of roughly half an acre and then I hope another of 2 acres
or more in the years to come. In researching the varieties for my climate
I've become confused about hardiness, why are there just so many varied
temperatures for a single species. Having recently been reading about figs
(Ficus carica) I discovered they're only hardy to -4C, yet they've
been growing well this year with no apparent damage from last winter
when temperatures were -8C! (young and mature trees alike).
Is there
an established source for reliable data (preferably available on the web)
or are there just too many factors controlling hardiness for a reliable
figure to be given?
Looking forward to your responses and learning more
over the coming months (and years).
Jamie Souscayrous
Near
the Mediterranean coast of Southern France, USDA zone 8. (I know,
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[NAFEX] feijoa in TN?
Hector,
How cold of a freeze have your
feijoa survived? How old are they and have they ever flowered or
fruited? We saw some growing as a hedge at the Norfolk
Botanical Garden--beautiful. I have some small potted plants that i
might eventually try putting outside here in PA zone 6 in a sheltered
location.
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