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["tanis cuff" <tanistanis@hotmail.com>]

What's the current "common knowledge" about using wildlife shrubs for 
feeding birds, so they have something to feed on other than our desireable 
fruits ?  For example, robins & others have just about cleaned up my Pagoda 
Dogwood berries, other dogwoods will be ripenning as Fall progresses.  Are 
birds more likely to feed from these than from domestic grapes & apples, if 
wild fruit is abundant ?  What's the best distance from the orchard to make 
must use of this ?  That is, what is far enough away so that they will avoid 
an orchard full of deterrents & dogs & people, yet not too far away so they 
think such an orchard is still an oasis ?

Tanis Cuff, south central Wisconsin


> From: Thomas Olenio <tolenio@sentex.net>
> Reply-To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Bird Scares - CHEAP
> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:12:54 -0400
>
> Hi,
>
> I agree with Del totally.  I waited for my grapes to start turning color 
> before I put up my scare
> devices.  You do not want the pests acclimated to them.
>
> I try to keep my deterrents cheap, and move their locations daily.
>
> Keep in mind that they are only "deterrents" and nothing works 100%.
>
> I am still getting 1-2 brave birds willing to overlook the mean looking 
> mylar balloons floating
> over the arbor, the spinning windmill with 5' blade spans, a decoy owl, and 
> 2 rubber snakes.  But
> I will take 1-2 birds over the flock that was just sitting on the arbor 
> waiting for ripe grapes,
> that were there before I put up the deterrents.
>
> Birds...  A tough battle.
>
> Later,
> Tom
>
> del stubbs wrote:
>
> > >This year , however, when
> > >I had it strung amoung my Amelanchier trees I think the robins and 
> waxwings
> > >were using it as a perch. I didnt get to taste a single fully ripe 
> fruit.
> > >Mark
> >
> > My attitude about ' deterrents' is to always have them up only when 
> really
> > necessary, so critters don't get aclimated to them.
> > I left a radio on too long in a cherry tree one time, and found a racoon
> > sitting next to it -  enjoying the tunes and the cherries.  Del
> >
> > Del Stubbs  www.pinewoodforge.com  ag zone2/3
> >
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