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[Ginda Fisher <ginda@concentric.net>]

Thomas Olenio wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I would like some "living fence" ideas, to keep out unwanted ATV's, ATC's
> and dirt bikes.
> 
> At first I liked poison ivy and those sorts of things, but that may be too
> cruel for even these people.
> . . .
> I still like the poison ivy, poison oak, and poison sumac approach, but
> part of me says not to do it.  But i am sure there is no law against
> planting such things on your own property. (evil grin)


There are two problems with poison ivy (other than the cruelty.)  (1) 
The slobs who are invading your property won't recognize it, and
probably won't even know for sure that they caught it on your land after
the fact.  You want deterrence, not punishment (I assume.)  (2)  You
will want to get to the bridge to prune and mend whatever fence you DO
grow.  It would be a mighty nuisance to prune and mend a poison ivy
hedge.

(There was a sign in my town with a nice growth of poison ivy that was
very neatly pruned for most of the summer.  It looked lovely, but I
wondered who was doing it.  In late August, someone treated it with
herbicide.  I'm guessing that was after his doctor diagnosed his rash,
and after he looked up poison ivy's appearance in the library.)

> Any suggestions on a very cruel, thornded, fast growing plant/shrub/cane
> that will (over time) fill the gap 50' on the south side, and grow under
> the bridge?
> 

I'd like to second the warning about multiflora rose.  There are less
invasive roses that are pretty hard to get through.  You might even try
blackberries.  Osage orange is a traditional and brutal fence, and
hawthorn gets pretty impenetrable fairly fast.

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