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[jim <jmc1@epix.net>]

"Antonovka" is a family name, not a variety specific.  When looking
for winter hardy breeding material 30 years ago, I collected the Antonovkas
that USDA  and others had earlier brought in from Russia.  These
are now in the clonal repository here at Geneva -- Antonovka 1.5 Pounds
(=A. Polutorafuntovaya), A. Debnicka, A.Kamenichka,  A.Michurin, A.
Monasir, A. Shafran, and A. Zheltaia.  These are 7 distinct varieties. 
The first -- Ant.Polt. -- is of particular interest because it is scab-immune; 
huge green fruits, quite tart.  Ant.Kam. is a 2.5 inch yellow, not
bad flavor.  Ant.Polt is very blight susceptible, Ant.Kam. rather
tolerant.  It is probable that the "Antonovka" knocking around North
America is Ant.Polt.  Missing, so far as I can ascertain, is Antonovka
Ob------, Common Antonovka.  The "Antonovka" seed imported from Poland
is normally Common Antonovka, with various hardy varieties as pollen parents.

//Jim
www.cumminsnursery.com
 

Ginda Fisher wrote:

This leads me to comment that Antonovka has a bad reputation (for fruit
quality) in this country.  Yet I know a couple of Russian emigrants who
have told me how much they miss Antonovka apples.  Their description, in
general terms, is similar to the "official" descriptions:  yellow, tart,
etc.  Is this just because they got fresher apples in Russia than at
Safeway?  Are there differing strains of Antonovka?  I've read that it
grows reasonably true from seed, so this seems plausible.

Can the scouts earn a second badge by grafting something that is popular
here on those Antonovka seedlings?

Enjoying the snowfall in the Northeast,
Ginda Fisher

Thomas Olenio wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have in excess of 3,000 Antonovka seeds... hence the idea for a good use
> for them.
>
> Tom
>
> --
> Thomas Olenio
> Ontario, Hardiness Zone 6a
>
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 jhecksel@voyager.net wrote:
>
> > I suggest you consider Snow/Fameues apple as it originated in Canada and
> > comes fairly true to type from seed (if you can get them).  It has also
> > been more resistant to scab than McIntosh and higher quality than
> > Antonovka.  But that is just my two cents (US).
> >
> > Thomas Olenio wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > The Cub Scouts are contemplating growing apple trees from seeds to sell on
> > > Apple Day in the fall, any suggestions?
> > >
> > > Traditionaly (at least in our area) Scouts sell apples door-to-door as a
> > > fundraiser in the fall.
> > >
> > > We are thinking of using some Antivoka apple seeds that we were donated to
> > > grow trees from seed and sell them as well.  Growing a tree from seed is
> > > also a badge activity.
> > >
> > > Any ideas on how to approach this project?  Seeds are in the fridge now.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thomas Olenio
> > > Ontario, Hardiness Zone 6a
> > >
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