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- From: prcenter@webtv.net
- To: nafex@egroups.com
- Subject: [nafex] Re: copyright & "terms of use"
- Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:09:57 -0000
--- In nafex@egroups.com, fluffy bunny <the.fluffy.bunny@j...> wrote:
> Tom wrote:
>
> As has already been pointed out by others you are wrong
>
> My reply:
>
> I suggest in the future you try reading in context before you make such
> unanimous statements. The paragraph that proceeded your commentary
> made allowance for educational institutions, which is one of the
> quintessential components of your argument.
>
> As our list moderator has subtely directed that this thread die, I
> suggest we both walk away from this or continue this in private e-mail.
>
> Very truly yours,
>
> TFB
>
Well... here is your entire statement (in context):
(Warning! The following inforation has been ripped off from the NAFEX e-lis=
t website. Without permission of the author(s). and although this is illegal=
according to the premis of some it is common practice even with those who c=
laim to frown on such things...)
" Message 5667 of 5705
From: fluffy bunny <the.fluffy.bunny@j...>
Date: Wed Dec 13, 2000 10:44am
Subject: Re: copyright & "terms of use"
Tom Booth wrote:
I would like to point out that this statement, rather than "holding no forc=
e" as aledged by some is actually a very clear and concise PUBLIC LEGAL DOCU=
MENT and a CONTRACT between NAFEX mambers and contributors to POMONA.
My reply:
Uhhh...well...Lets try it this way.
Even if one were prepared to argue that this is a contract, it would then b=
e by definition a "unilateral" contract which in essence means anyone attemp=
ting to preserve their copyright status would be afforded the "loosest" inte=
rpretation of the law. This in effect, would negate the alleged merits of =
the "notice" in POMONA.
Obviously in such a circumstance the identity and status of the infringing =
party would be paramount in determing the extent to which copyright protecti=
on would be afforded. Any corporate entity, business, of NAFEX itself would=
be held to higher standard than would an individual passing information alo=
ng to third party.
Very truly yours,
TFB
_________________________________________________
Try as I might I see no reference to "educational institutions" or making "=
allowances"...
What you do say is (warning! out of context [see above]):
"Any corporate entity, business, of NAFEX itself would be held to HIGHER ST=
ANDARD (warning! emphsis added by unscrupulous copyright infringer) than wou=
ld an individual passing information along to third party."
If you can interpret "higher standard" as "allowance"... I could understand=
your point. But I don't.
Regardless I offer my appologies for any missunderstanding or missinterpret=
ation of your intended meaning.
As far as dropping the subject... I would certainly rather be transcribing =
back issues of POMONA for the NAFEX website than engaging in fruitless debat=
e here. Hopefully the project can now move forward.
Tom Booth
(anti-copyright notice: All rights under International and Pan-American Cop=
yright Conventions are hereby waived. I do not intend to prosicute anyone in=
any manner whatsoever for reproducing in any form or by any means, includin=
g photostat, microfilm, xerography, or by incorporation into any information=
retrieval system, electronic or mechanical or for forwarding posts.)
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RE: [nafex] Re: copyright & "terms of use",
Tom Volkening, 12/14/2000
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
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Re: [nafex] Re: copyright & "terms of use",
fluffy bunny, 12/14/2000
- Re: [nafex] Re: copyright & "terms of use", Ginda Fisher, 12/14/2000
- [nafex] Re: copyright & "terms of use", prcenter, 12/15/2000
- Re: [nafex] Re: copyright & "terms of use", PermacultureNo1, 12/16/2000
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