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["Big Swede" <JFrisk@pionet.net>]

I planted a "Sutton's Beauty" about 20 years ago.  It was not very good and
either died or I cut it down.  It was a poor quality apple.  Our area is
zone 4b to 5 so it might have been too hot during the summer.  I am located
in SW Iowa.  Judson
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From: dwalsh/wchase <wchase@interchange.ubc.ca>
To: <nafex@egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 3:02 PM
Subject: [nafex] Sutton Beauty apple


> Claude,
>
> I had to go to the books again to see if I could find anything on Dumelow
or
> Wellington.
>
> Acc to Martin Crawford, Dumelow Seedling comes from England, is a cooker,
and is a
> Northern Greenling seedling.
>
> A friend has the Apples of NY as well as all sorts of good reference
books.
>
> She says the US germplasm repository (from before the Internet) lists
Sutton and
> Sutton Beauty, so that
> variety is not lost to the world.
> She also says that Aof NY says it is an error
> to consider Wellington and Dumelow as synonyms of SB.  I think I
understood from
> her that Wellington and Dumelow Seedling and Dumelow's crab are synonyms
of one
> another and Sutton Beauty has many synonyms including Sutton and Morris
Red.
> Sutton Beauty
> is a seedling of Hubbardson Nonsuch.   Hubbardson Nonsuch is also listed
as a
> synonym of SB, but A of NY says it is not a 'synonym', but a 'seedling
of'.
> Apparently the picture of Sutton Beauty in A of NY is of a very
nice-looking
> apple.  It came out of Massachusetts in 1848.Also Sutton Beauty is an
eating apple
> (vs Dumelow which is a cooker)
>
> However, I went onto the US germplasm Repository site and there is no
listing of
> Sutton or Sutton Beauty or Morris Red. There is a listing of Wellington,
but this
> is presumably a US Wellington, not the British one.
>
> I also checked the US Germplasm site for 'Winter' and 'Winter Dessert'.
No sign
> of either.     Winter is probably a generic name, or a short form of one
of the
> many apples having 'winter' as part of their name.
>
> These searches are interesting,
>
> Thanks for your input,
>
> Derry
>
> Derry Walsh & Bill Chase  email:wchase@interchange.ubc.ca
> Aldergrove,  B. C.,  Canada
> phone/fax (604) 856-9316
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> : Derry,
> : Looking in my documentation, I don't find anything on Winter or Winter
> : Dessert. However, from Beach's Apples of NY, Sutton Beauty is a synonym
for
> : those 2 varieties:
> : Dumelow (also called Wellington), a yellow English cooker,
> : Sutton, a seedling of Hubbardston prior to 1850, orig. Mass.
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> : Claude
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