Mounted search and rescue

[Dick L Sweet <dsweet.fsm@voyager.net>]

Karen
You have my heart and mind........I agree 

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On Jun 20, 2011, at 6:25 AM, "T'mi Finkle" <tfinkle@erols.com> wrote:

> Karen,
> 
> I can understand some of your frustration.  Please note that the State of 
> Illinois has a very robust (volunteer) search and rescue
> program with hundreds of folks who (like yourself), have a passion to help 
> others.  The Illinois Search and Rescue Council is a
> charitable, professional, and educational organization which supports, 
> coordinates, develops, promotes, and implements search and
> rescue resources with the underlying principles of saving lives and 
> preserving property through its support of the National Search
> and Rescue Plan, the National Response Framework, and Illinois Emergency 
> Operations Plan.  The Illinois Search and Rescue Council
> website can be viewed at http://www.illinoissar.org    
> 
> T’mi
> www.trotsar.org   
> ________________________________________
> From: msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org 
> [mailto:msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Karen Nesbitt
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 12:18 AM
> To: Mounted search and rescue in Illinois USA.; MSAR
> Subject: Re: [MSAR] Volunteers...mayhem???
> 
> Hmmm, I get it.. what it is going to come down too is that there will not 
> be enough manpower PERIOD..  And so what some of you here
> that get paid are just about saying is that those of  family members who 
> have a missing person should not even search in their own
> backyards or farm fields.  I get the impression that you feel volunteers 
> threaten your jobs.   And largely because the whole dang
> community has become so sue happy they cant act righteous or even 
> neighborly..  They should not even ask their friends, relatives
> or God forbid ask the neighbors but just call LE....hmmmm..like I said, 
> stuff keeps going how it is and no one is going to
> come. Yep, its gonna come down to no one on a search when the budgets of 
> some states get further slashed.. hello, lets talk Illinois
> which is cash bones broke and has cut down so much in the LE that you 
> cannot even get a deputy in some counties to take a call
> because they are short handed already.   Yeah right, thats cutting down on 
> the mayhem.   Poppy cock.   Then try to get a case to
> court in a system that is so clogged with stupid petty lawsuits that are of 
> no value to anyone with idiots suing just for the hell
> of it to harass people and wasting lives of others in the process.. now 
> thats rich...and the real cases go tossed by the wayside.  
> Thats our tax dollars at work.. we pay through the nose and get nothing.  
> The idiots win and win and win...no mayhem there huh?
>  
> You know, some people call Law enforcement because we beleive they are 
> supposed to help in certain situations  but it gets pretty
> bad when you call and the officers on the other end dont know who to pass 
> your buck too because there is no one else in the office
> to hand it off too..no less dispatch a squad to a scene and they cant 
> because they are already on calls and at the earliest  you are
> hours or a day or so away.
>  
> But I guess in the states where ya'll are flooded with pro riders and so 
> many deputies etc... you have no clue as to what is
> happening elsewhere?   
>  
> And especially NO ONE should volunteer to do anything because you need a 
> permit to fart anymore.
>  
> Cool, now thats regulation at its finest. Lost kids and adults everywhere 
> will never be found and no one gives a  rats patoot about
> it.  Yeah thats taking care of problems now isnt it.   Tell that to people 
> who need searchers.  Tell that to people who are
> searching for their own... see how far that gets and how they react.  Tell 
> that to people who still live in communities that there
> are only 4 boys on a fire department and the rest are all VOLUNTEER.  You 
> want a volunteer to turn responder???   
>  
> What has happened is the government has regulated it self into a strangle 
> hold of poppycock insurance and idiot laws.  
> 
> Like I said, if you that are in LE do not want the community to do the 
> humanitary thing, then dont call us, at all costs and all
> means do not PUT IT ON THE NEWS SOMEONE IS MISSING FOR GOD FORBID YOU GET A 
> VOLUNTEER or 19 TO COME TO TRY TO HELP. Turn yourselves
> into desk people patronage jobs and dont search either because that seems 
> to be what this world is coming too.  Not enough
> compassion for anyone to do the right thing.  God forbid we jump into the 
> lake to help someone, take a risk for someone else
> unselfserving and because we care not  so much of ourselves but are caring 
> more enough of the other person?  Oh, but i guess that is
> not politically correct and we are not supposed to do that.  And God forbid 
> we did not have our regulated VOLUNTEER BATHING SUIT
> on.. SHEESH....
>  
> Tell you what, been on the end where the cops never showed.  The family 
> spent weeks searching for a family member.  If it was not
> for those particular family members, our friends and neighbors searching 
> for our own the boy would have never been found.  By the
> time the foreign LE got off their duff and got their stuff together to do a 
> search it was too late.  And of course, the LE on this
> side of the border could not do anything because that was not their turf.  
> The boy was not found alive.  But praise GOD for the
> volunteers he was found.  You want mayham, try grasping for straws when you 
> are the parent of the missing subject.  Again, some of
> you in search jobs, you have no clue you only think you do as per your 
> traiing.. you only do what you are paid to do, nothing more
> and you dont take it home.  You are a pro, your not supposed to show 
> compassion or make friends.  Its just another day at the office
> for some of you.  And granted, there are others that are just the opposite.
>  
> If I sound a tad hot about this whole shooting match it is because that 
> missing boy was part of my family.  And when it comes to one
> of your own.. you have no clue why some people are passionate or 
> compassionate about doing a search and they dont want a dime.  All
> they want is to help..   GOD forbid any of us ask for help... those idiot 
> laws and insurance bungles will kill you at the gate.  And
> so what that smells of and says then is to save a life or recover a lost 
> these days, its getting to be anymore, you have to break a
> law?   GOOD GRIEF.    That is truly how the top is winding up here.
>  
> Dont offer anyone a glass of lemonade on a hot day to anyone for fear of a 
> lawsuit.  Oh now that is rich.. Only in America. 
> Sheesh.  
>  
> By the way, some States actually do have  GOOD SAMARITAIN LAWS... but dont 
> tell anyone.. it just might make some people act a little
> human.  But if you really want to know.. just google GOOD SAM LAWS... 
>  
> Im still hung up on that drowning victim recently that no one did anything 
> to try to save....and they were pros in boats at the
> scene just watching the victim die and surely someone could but no one did. 
>  Now thats search and ...I beleive no recovery.
>  
>         Karen Nesbitt - VMSAR  - Iroqouis County - Illinois.
>   
> Luke 10:32-34
> King James Version (KJV)
>  32And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, 
> and passed by on the other side. 
>  33But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he 
> saw him, he had compassion on him, 
>  34And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and 
> set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and
> took care of him.
>  
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