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  • From: Dick L Sweet <dsweet.fsm@voyager.net>
  • To: Mounted search and rescue <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Cc: "Mounted search and rescue in Illinois USA." <msar-il@lists.ibiblio.org>, MSAR <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [MSAR] Volunteers...mayhem???
  • Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 08:37:33 -0400

I will forward and copy.  You are correct, you can t legeslate, dictate, lic or certify compassion. Thoae of us who posess it and are intellegent and knowledgeable should never step back for a paid "mercinary". Always do the right thing........
WWJD

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On Jun 20, 2011, at 12:17 AM, Karen Nesbitt <spanishequines@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hmmm, I get it.. what it is going to come down too is that there will not be enough manpower PERIOD..  And so what some of you here that get paid are just about saying is that those of  family members who have a missing person should not even search in their own backyards or farm fields.  I get the impression that you feel volunteers threaten your jobs.   And largely because the whole dang community has become so sue happy they cant act righteous or even neighborly..  They should not even ask their friends, relatives or God forbid ask the neighbors but just call LE....hmmmm..like I said, stuff keeps going how it is and no one is going to come. Yep, its gonna come down to no one on a search when the budgets of some states get further slashed.. hello, lets talk Illinois which is cash bones broke and has cut down so much in the LE that you cannot even get a deputy in some counties to take a call because they are short handed already.   Yeah right, thats cutting down on the mayhem.   Poppy cock.   Then try to get a case to court in a system that is so clogged with stupid petty lawsuits that are of no value to anyone with idiots suing just for the hell of it to harass people and wasting lives of others in the process.. now thats rich...and the real cases go tossed by the wayside.   Thats our tax dollars at work.. we pay through the nose and get nothing.  The idiots win and win and win...no mayhem there huh?
 
You know, some people call Law enforcement because we beleive they are supposed to help in certain situations  but it gets pretty bad when you call and the officers on the other end dont know who to pass your buck too because there is no one else in the office to hand it off too..no less dispatch a squad to a scene and they cant because they are already on calls and at the earliest  you are hours or a day or so away.
 
But I guess in the states where ya'll are flooded with pro riders and so many deputies etc... you have no clue as to what is happening elsewhere?  
 
And especially NO ONE should volunteer to do anything because you need a permit to fart anymore.
 
Cool, now thats regulation at its finest. Lost kids and adults everywhere will never be found and no one gives a  rats patoot about it.  Yeah thats taking care of problems now isnt it.   Tell that to people who need searchers.  Tell that to people who are searching for their own... see how far that gets and how they react.  Tell that to people who still live in communities that there are only 4 boys on a fire department and the rest are all VOLUNTEER.  You want a volunteer to turn responder???  
 
What has happened is the government has regulated it self into a strangle hold of poppycock insurance and idiot laws. 

Like I said, if you that are in LE do not want the community to do the humanitary thing, then dont call us, at all costs and all means do not PUT IT ON THE NEWS SOMEONE IS MISSING FOR GOD FORBID YOU GET A VOLUNTEER or 19 TO COME TO TRY TO HELP. Turn yourselves into desk people patronage jobs and dont search either because that seems to be what this world is coming too.  Not enough compassion for anyone to do the right thing.  God forbid we jump into the lake to help someone, take a risk for someone else unselfserving and because we care not  so much of ourselves but are caring more enough of the other person?  Oh, but i guess that is not politically correct and we are not supposed to do that.  And God forbid we did not have our regulated VOLUNTEER BATHING SUIT on.. SHEESH....
 
Tell you what, been on the end where the cops never showed.  The family spent weeks searching for a family member.  If it was not for those particular family members, our friends and neighbors searching for our own the boy would have never been found.  By the time the foreign LE got off their duff and got their stuff together to do a search it was too late.  And of course, the LE on this side of the border could not do anything because that was not their turf.  The boy was not found alive.  But praise GOD for the volunteers he was found.  You want mayham, try grasping for straws when you are the parent of the missing subject.  Again, some of you in search jobs, you have no clue you only think you do as per your traiing.. you only do what you are paid to do, nothing more and you dont take it home.  You are a pro, your not supposed to show compassion or make friends.  Its just another day at the office for some of you.  And granted, there are others that are just the opposite.
 
If I sound a tad hot about this whole shooting match it is because that missing boy was part of my family.  And when it comes to one of your own.. you have no clue why some people are passionate or compassionate about doing a search and they dont want a dime.  All they want is to help..   GOD forbid any of us ask for help... those idiot laws and insurance bungles will kill you at the gate.  And so what that smells of and says then is to save a life or recover a lost these days, its getting to be anymore, you have to break a law?   GOOD GRIEF.    That is truly how the top is winding up here.
 
Dont offer anyone a glass of lemonade on a hot day to anyone for fear of a lawsuit.  Oh now that is rich.. Only in America.  Sheesh. 
 
By the way, some States actually do have  GOOD SAMARITAIN LAWS... but dont tell anyone.. it just might make some people act a little human.  But if you really want to know.. just google GOOD SAM LAWS...
 
Im still hung up on that drowning victim recently that no one did anything to try to save....and they were pros in boats at the scene just watching the victim die and surely someone could but no one did.  Now thats search and ...I beleive no recovery.
 
        Karen Nesbitt - VMSAR  - Iroqouis County - Illinois.
 

Luke 10:32-34

King James Version (KJV)

 32And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side.
 33But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,
 34And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
 
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