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  • From: "Sherry C. Hicks" <shicks@nwinc.net>
  • To: "'Mounted search and rescue'" <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [MSAR] Propose to your local AHJ
  • Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 14:36:09 -0500

Yup, that is what I done last weekend; in 6" of snow we were climbing over
dead trees and over some brush piles of around others. It was quite fun.

-----Original Message-----
From: msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 12:50 PM
To: Mounted search and rescue
Subject: Re: [MSAR] Propose to your local AHJ

Hi,

Unless things have changed recently, the SARTECH II test also has a land
navigation portion where the testee has to follow a given set of coordinates
on six separate course legs and be able to measure the distances by counting
strides. This has to be done wearing the SAR pack through covered terrain.
SARTEC|H III is only a written test, and SARTECH I is listed as Crew Leader
and must be able to do night navigation.

Mike Pici
Team Commander
Florida SAR Specialists, Inc.
727-798-9227

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sherry C. Hicks" <shicks@nwinc.net>
To: "'Mounted search and rescue'" <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 11:23
Subject: Re: [MSAR] Propose to your local AHJ


> I did mean NASAR SAR TECH II. NASAR SAR TECH III is just a written test
and
> can be taken online. It is intended to give people a feel for SAR and not
> for people who want to work in the field. SAR TECH I is more advanced than
> SAR TECH II. It's the beginning of operational training, if I understand
it
> correctly. I am sure that SAR TECH I is more advanced than SAR TECH II
>
> The man who did our training is Art. I don't know his last name, but he
> helped to develop the SAR TECH I & II courses. He was really cool, and
knew
> a lady who is working on the MSAR standard.
>
> Sherry
> Chattanooga, TN
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Una Smith
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 11:25 PM
> To: Mounted search and rescue
> Subject: Re: [MSAR] Propose to your local AHJ
>
> Sherry C. Hicks wrote:
> >I started my SAR TEK II class last weekend.
>
> Meaning NASAR SAR TECH II? Good for you. That curriculum,
> and probably also SAR TECH III, probably meets ASTM standard
> F2209, which defines basic skills for land search. (I say
> probably because to my knowledge no one has evaluated the
> current NASAR SAR TECH curriculum to see if it meets F2209.)
>
>
> [...]
> >I would have
> >thought most MSAR would require this class, am I wrong?
>
> Most SAR units should (and many do) require training on all
> these topics, but not necessarily NASAR's SAR TECH program.
>
> The NASAR SAR TECH curriculum is very well known but it is
> not a national standard: it has no national agency mandate.
> Also, NASAR's membership is thin in some regions of the US;
> in those regions, logistics and cost of NASAR programs can
> be prohibitive. Fortunately, there are other curricula and
> sources of training programs.
>
>
> There is a free training book, the PACE Study Guide, developed
> and used in New Mexico, that probably also meets ASTM standard
> F2209, which anyone can download off the web from New Mexico
> Emergency Services Council (on http://www.nmesc.org/ , click on
> "PACE" in the left menu bar). New Mexico's PACE certification
> is a one-time exam involving a written test on the PACE Study
> Guide, a written test on ICS-100, a pack check (equipment list
> is in the PACE Study Guide), and a simple field compass test.
> Apart from the New Mexico SAR Act and Plan, all the content is
> widely relevant to SAR outside New Mexico.
>
> The PACE Study Guide pre-dates F2209, but if it does not meet
> F2209, it comes very close. The PACE Study Guide now is being
> rewritten. I expect it will then meet F2209 on all points of
> consensus. There may be some points on which F2209 could use
> improvement; F2209 is a rather new standard and has not yet
> been heavily "field tested". Meaning, adopted and adapted by
> multiple users, independently. Revision of New Mexico's PACE
> Study Guide is one such field test; another field test is Don
> Cooper's revision of the book that NASAR uses in its training
> program.
>
> What book is that? "Search and Rescue Fundamentals: Basic
> Skills and Knowledge to Perform Wilderness, Inland, Search and
> Rescue". There is a companion instructor's manual and training
> kit. All available from Emergency Response Institute in Canada
> (http://www.ericanada.com/) and ERI International everywhere
> else (http://www.eri-intl.com/).
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Una Smith
> New Mexico
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