Mounted search and rescue

["Patty Montoya" <riverrider@bak.rr.com>]

Sherry, this message is just to you, (or should be if I'm doing it right...
Your comment about not trying to be difficult... you're absolutely right. 
That's how we all learn from each other if having a healthy debate.  No 
matter how much I may think I'm set in my way on something, invariably 
someone comes up with another point of view that changes my thinking. 
Thanks for your input.  Patty
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sherry C. Hicks" <shicks@nwinc.net>
To: "'Mounted search and rescue'" <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [MSAR] Hobbles


> OK, I'm the greenie. I just have to ask, is it safe to hobble in an
> uncontrolled area. I agree with you that a policy should be complied with 
> or
> changed. You are talking about using hobbles instead of ties. There are
> times when a horse is justified in flight. In the areas where we would
> search there are sometimes packs of dogs, other areas would have worse 
> like
> bear or even cougar. Is it safe to use hobbles on a horse and leave it
> unattended.
>
> It is true that I am not a fan of hobbles; however, I have seen situations
> where their use was necessary and proper. It also seems that you ought to
> require a certain level of training for a horse used in MSAR. Do they have
> to pass any kind of test before being accepted for use? It seems that a
> horse that is not sufficiently trained could hinder a search.
>
> I'm no trying to be difficult, just learn.
>
> Thanks
> Sherry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Jorene Downs
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 1:57 PM
> To: Mounted search and rescue
> Subject: [MSAR] Hobbles
>
> From: "Patty Montoya" <riverrider@bak.rr.com>
> > Also, our unit requires that we pack hobbles, but I always highline or
> > electric fence my horses.  So, I went out and bought hobbles with no
> > intent
> > to use them.  I don't really want to get into a discussion of the pros or
> > cons of the hobbles themselves, I'm more interested in opinions of the
> > unit
> > REQUIRING that I use them.  Should the individual make this decision, or
> > are
> > we obligated to follow this rule just as we are obligated to follow other
> > MSAR rules and regulations?
> > Patty/California
>
> If it is a unit requirement, all should conform ... and demonstrate
> appropriate use of that equipment. If folks disagree with the requirement,
> vote to change it. ;)
>
> Assuming the horse is broke to hobbles and respects their restraint, they
> can be very useful when you're in a situation in the field where you need 
> to
>
> temporarily leave the horse unattended, there is no convenient location to
> tie, and you want all hands available instead of someone dedicated to
> holding all the livestock.  (This also assumes all the horses are not 
> taught
>
> to ground tie.)
>
> -Jorene
>
>
>
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