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  • From: Richard Moyer <ramoyer AT gmail.com>
  • To: market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Market-farming Digest, Vol 104, Issue 42
  • Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:00:10 -0400

Allan,
Strange that your lettuce has stopped growing. Perhaps some
environmental stress/clue that has triggered dormancy? Which lettuces
(cultivars) are not growing? Any that are still growing?

Thanks for this discussion. Glad to see folks working against the
paradigm that veggies are only summer/early fall fare. For those of
you who suffered through this brutal summer, I am reminded of my
forebears in Georgia who primarily gardened three seasons: fall,
winter and spring. Anyone thinking of cutting back on summer
plantings, thereby increasing fall and spring production?

Richard and Gary,
Thanks for the details on what works for you, especially when to
plant, what crops and cultivars. Our market is open until Christmas,
so I want to be there every time with greens and roots!

Our best winter lettuces have been 'Red Salad Bowl', 'Oakleaf', 'Red
Sails', 'Deer Tongue' and 'Tango'. These have survived with 1-2
layers of row cover and/or several inches of snow, through single
digits. Also have additional "winter" lettuces to try this year.

Two sites with fall/winter growing info and seeds; please add other
sources you're aware of:
http://www.southernexposure.com/ (see Articles by Ken Bezilla and
Bret Grohsgal) and
http://www.territorialseed.com/grow_guide_winter_index
Books by Elliot Coleman and the Wiedigers cover this as well.

The Territorial winter trial grounds were an eye-opener for me, one
cold and nasty, winter day. Great to see what can still look good!

Gary, are you folks at Twin Springs open for late fall/winter visits, by appt?

Out to plant more before the forecast rains.
Richard Moyer
SW VA
Where chefs are asking for root crops and greens. Trying to keep both
them and my accountant happy!

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>   1. Fall Lettuce was 'Late' Planting of fall/winter   crops
>      (Allan Balliett)
>   2. Re: Fall Lettuce was 'Late' Planting of   fall/winter crops
>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Richard Moyer <ramoyer AT gmail.com> wrote:
>> > We have requests from chefs and customers for greens and 'baby' root
>> > crops, for Nov, Dec and winter.
>> >
>> > Which root crops can I plant now, and get enough growth for baby
>> > roots?  I often cover  these outdoor beds with a single layer of spun
>> > fabric, especially the first hard freezes and during cold winds.
>> >
>> > Our historic first freeze is mid to late Oct, though it's been
>> > early-mid Nov last two years.
>> >
>> > Will be putting spinach and lettuce in our tunnel later, late tomatoes
>> > blooming in there now.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Richard Moyer
>> > SW VA
>> > Zone 6B---------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:14:27 -0400
> From: Richard Stewart <rstewart AT zoomtown.com>
> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Fall Lettuce was 'Late' Planting of
>        fall/winter crops
> To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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> This is what we have growing:
>
> Red Shanghai Oakleaf (direct seed)
> Black Seeded Simpson variety (direct seed)
> Buttercrunch (seeded earlier in trays and currently being transplanted for
> head lettuce)
> Deer Tongue
>
> As we get further ahead into autumn these will do fine until we get a hard
> frost.  All are growing wonderfully right now.  With the cool temps and
> fairly regular rainfall we have had pretty healthy growth the past two
> weeks.  We will direct seed till October 1 then stop.  By the time
> germination and good initial growth happens the sun is low enough that the
> leafing is slow.  We pull in beds to close to our packing hut and start
> getting the outer beds ready for winter (spreading compost, fall, till, and
> possibly a mulch cover.
>
> Current growth is excellent and I would think there is not too much
> different between us temp wise though I think we run a bit warmer.
>
> We REALLY start noticing a difference after the first of November be it in
> the ground or under plastic.
>
> As we get closer to Thanksgiving we start relying more and more on the
> hardy plants and move to a "bitter" mix of arugula, turnips greens, beet
> greens, swiss chard, micro mizuna/kholrabi/turnip, and radish sprouts, and
> use the the remaining lettuce that we have (using floating ground cover if
> necessary) to soften the texture and flavor.  Once you get customers (in
> our case more chefs, but at market as well) in the groove and understanding
> how the season works they are actually sort of craving that bitter mix.  
> Works out fairly well.
>
> Richard Stewart
> Carriage House Farm
> North Bend, Ohio
>
> An Ohio Century Farm Est. 1855
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> (513) 967-1106
> http://www.carriagehousefarmllc.com
> rstewart AT zoomtown.com
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