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  • From: <clearviewfarm AT bluefrog.com>
  • To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Market-farming] monsanto varieties
  • Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 14:59:12 -0800

This listserv is to educate and/or provide information to other
growers/interested individuals, as I understand it. To debate whether or not
one should use genetically engineered or a particular seed company's seeds,
perhaps ought to be kept offline. But if someone wants to know who offers
what, I think that information should be available to interested individuals.


Johnny's sent me a list that looks very much like the one posted earlier.
The first one they sent me was missing some varieties, which they later
corrected. Red Zeppelin is a Seminis (Monsanto) variety, as well as Cornell
Bush Delicata. Thanks for letting us know about the usefulness of Johnny's
Delicata and Table Queen squash, Rivka.

Kurt Forman
Clearview Farm
Palmyra, NY 14522

--- organic87 AT frontiernet.net wrote:

From: Road's End Farm <organic87 AT frontiernet.net>
To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] monsanto varieties
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 10:00:07 -0500


On Feb 4, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Ryan Wood-Beauchamp wrote:

> The following is a list of Monsanto varieties stocked by Johnny's I
> was disappointed to learn that Big Beef was one. Does anyone know a
> good replacement?
>
>

I'd like to know the answer to that one also; I've been trying to find
one for several years. I have heirlooms that have better flavor than
Big Beef; but it's hard to find Big Beef's combination of earliness,
flavor, and production of large standard round, red, smoothly shaped
tomatoes for those customers who are unwilling to buy anything that
doesn't look like their idea of "perfect tomato".

Matchbox is nearly as good as Super Chili; average size of peppers and
production may both be slightly less, but not by much. Peacework is a
very good early red sweet pepper, but seed isn't really available this
year; try Fedco next year.

Johnny's own strain of Delicata has always done better for me than
Bush Delicata anyway. (Are you sure Bush Delicata is now Monsanto? Did
you get the list from Johnny's?) And I like Table Queen better than
Table Ace.

(Let me note here also that I know there are people on this list who
see no reason not to buy from Monsanto. This is a concern for some of
us, but not others, for various reasons; I'd rather not have the list
get into a debate on that issue. If someone has had a bad experience
with any individual company, for whatever reason, and wants to discuss
alternative varieties they could source elsewhere, I think that's a
legitimate question to ask on the list, even if others are happy with
the specific company. Could we treat this question in that fashion,
please?)


-- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 5 mostly
Fresh-market organic produce, small scale



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