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  • From: Todd Lister <toddlister1 AT gmail.com>
  • To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Fwd: [sno-valley-tilth] OrganicVeg Farmers whouse Semin
  • Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:48:21 -0400

There is no question that Monteranto is an enemy of the worlds farmers. The evidence is overwhelming that they are willing to do ANYTHING for $$$$$$$. As evil a business model as we will EVER see in this great country. Small family farms used to be an important part of the big picture. From here on out we will survive only because of the growing demand for our products by those who except these monsters are  destroying the food chain. Monsanto=Union Carbide, Goldman Sachs, Haliburton. When this thing collapses at least I will have real food. I will NEVER buy a treated seed OR a seed from the likes of anybody who thinks a laboratory is part of farming.  If you think GMO is OK you need to look around.
http://blogs.barrons.com/stockstowatchtoday/2010/01/13/monsanto-report-genetically-modified-corn-causes-organ-damage-in-rats/
http://www.infowars.com/monsantos-gmo-corn-linked-to-organ-failure-study-reveals/
http://azhomegrownsolutions.ning.com/forum/topics/monsantos-gmo-corn-linked-to
There are plenty of people out there who dismiss this story. There are also plenty of people who reject climate change is an issue to be taken seriously. I guess if you use chemical and synthetic fertilizer you will reject this. Have a great growing season.
Todd
Veribest Farm
Vesta, Ga




On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Road's End Farm <organic87 AT frontiernet.net> wrote:

On Mar 19, 2010, at 7:01 AM, rosnide3 AT vt.edu wrote:

> Actually no that is NOT what I was looking for. Perhaps I
> misunderstood the
> whole dicussion but I thought there were claims about non GMO
> varieties made on
> here. I knew about the GMO stuff. I apologize if I have misunderstood.


Whether the varieties are GMO or non-GMO has nothing to do with
whether they may be under a non-propagation agreement, or what the
terms of such agreement might be. I have certainly seen non-
propagation agreements for non-GMO seed, including for both hybrid and
open-pollinated seed; though such contracts don't necessarily include
language allowing the owner of the seed to come on the grower's land
to check for enforcement -- they are mostly meant to prevent sales of
the seed to other parties, so enforcement in those cases would be
done, I presume, by watching for such sales.

The question is whether Monsanto has applied such contracts to recent
sales of Seminis seed, and if so a) what the terms are and b) whether
they might try to enforce them on people who have been working for
some time with the Seminis varieties to breed their own strains from
them and/or to save their own seed for the variety. Many of the
Seminis varieties were not previously patented or otherwise
restricted, or were restricted only under the old plant variety laws
that allowed such use by farmers; and growers may well be in
possession of such seed and/or of plants descended from such seed that
they are breeding from; under the original terms of sale this is
entirely legal.


-- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 5 mostly
Fresh-market organic produce, small scale



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