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  • From: tradingpost <tradingpost@lobo.net>
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  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Greenhouse gas fear over increased levels of meateating
  • Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 10:01:42 -0600


Hi, Mike. Interesting points, but to make one small exception - I believe they do argue that current beef production is already a problem. That involves (govt subsidized) vast overproduction of grains for beef, with all the environmental consequences. I'm no fan of grains personally, but others may differ.

paul

On 9/2/2014 9:28 PM, Mike wrote:
54068AEE.1020503@mlxvi.org" type="cite"> I don't think anyone is saying don't eat meat. What they are saying is that if people *increase* meat eating at the rate at the rate that they are now then we will have a problem.

And, likewise no one is saying stop and everything will be rosy. They are merely saying that it will add to all the other things that we are doing and make things worse than if we hadn't.

By dismissing this research in such a flippent manner we risk missing the message.

If I said to you that your concern for the ocean food being wiped out because of Fukushima was stupid, since we were already overfishing and avoiding Fukushima would have made scant difference, you would probably react with indignation. And quite rightly, because Fukushima was another thing that added to the problems.

All of our problems exist because someone - somewhere - justified every action that took us some way towards our current situation.

Right now, the frackers are thinking what idiots we all are, protesting against fracking. Look at all the problems in the world not caused by fracking. They will be thinking "Our planet is being trashed in very many different ways and looking at one tiny facet and thinking that if this were changed things would improve is pure lunacy imo."




On 03/09/14 11:16, John D'hondt wrote:
At the moment rainforests burn for palm oil and soy more than for cattle. Fracking is killing plants and animals and Fukushima is wiping out life in the Pacific ocean. In short, our planet is being trashed in very many different ways and looking at one tiny facet and thinking that if this were changed things would improve is pure lunacy imo.
There are many places in the world where no human could survive on a locally grown vegetarian diet. I am living in one of them.
John

Greenhouse gas fear over increased levels of meat eating
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-29007758

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