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I had no idea, John. Who made these laws - British parliament? Absentee 
landlords? Same crowd that engineered the famous famine?

paul

On 5/29/2014 5:40 PM, John D'hondt wrote:
> Insanity is right. And most definitely they are trying to destroy 
> everything people depend on because this makes you dependent on them 
> and forces you to become a good consumer.
>
> For instance : Spreading compost is illegal within 20 meters of any 
> farm track, any hedge or the smallest water course (of which we have 
> many miles on the land) but it is allowed to spread chemical 
> fertilizer in all these places. We make our own compost but chemical 
> fertilizer we would have to buy. I think that explains it all. But the 
> same goes for almost anything. It is now illegal to fell a tree with a 
> chainsaw. You now have to go follow a week long course costing $ 4 T. 
> Then you get a license to go felling any tree you want.
> You can no longer repair storm damage to your own house. First you 
> have to follow a course to get a license costing a few thousand and 
> then you need a plan made up by an architect. And after the repairs 
> the architect needs to sign that the repairs were according to all 
> regulations. And that costs more thousands.
> It is now illegal to have any plants on the land, even natives, that 
> might just possibly be used for medicinal purposes.
>
> It is obvious that the great idea is to make people completely 
> impotent to help themselves in any way.
> John
>
> Well I don't understand what's going on there. Is the govt trying to
> destroy everything people depend on? Trees & shrubs? A crime? Insane.
>
> On 5/29/2014 4:43 PM, John D'hondt wrote:
> > I know Paul but being really organic is a war in the EU. Have been 
> > breaking regulations for a long time and we have severely suffered 
> > for it. We get fined (almost $ 10 T last year alone) for having trees 
> > and shrubs on the land as just one example out of hundreds. Most 
> > neighbours rectified that by setting fire to all their shrubs and 
> > trees and they don't get fined. Doing what is right makes it very 
> > difficult to survive financially.
> > Imo we (all of us) are in an ever faster race to the bottom and I 
> > have not been able to do much to stop that. I am absolutely certain 
> > that I have sequestered thousands of tons of carbon (while breaking 
> > lots of regulations) in my soil over the years but all around me I 
> > have seen millions of tons go up in smoke and more millions of tons 
> > being washed away by rain water.
> > John
> >
> >
> > Looking at the actual press release
> > http://rodaleinstitute.org/reversing-climate-change-achievable-by-farming-organically/ 
> >
> >
> > Forget regulations; the govt program is DOA far as I'm concerned. The
> > actual organic practices are the key. Organic properly understood is the
> > right way and economically necessary and doable in and of itself. I do
> > it because it works, and go beyond it with intensive methods based on
> > agroecology. The methods are what sequesters carbon - not phony baloney
> > regulations.
> >
> > paul
> >
> > On 5/29/2014 3:26 PM, John D'hondt wrote:
> >
> > _________________
> > > True Paul but as an organic farmer I saw first hand all the 
> > > regulations that make this impossible in practice.
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > > this is big.
> > >
> > > Organic Farming ‘Could Sequester All Carbon Emissions’
> > > http://www.environmentalleader.com/2014/05/27/organic-farming-could-sequester-all-carbon-emissions/ 
> > >
> > >
> > > Regenerative Organic Agriculture and Climate Change
> > > http://rodaleinstitute.org/regenerative-organic-agriculture-and-climate-change/