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[tradingpost <tradingpost@lobo.net>]

First: in this forum (not quorum) the list owner (me) has the same right to express views as anyone else.
Second: you're arguing with the consensus of thousands of climate scientists - unpaid BTW - under the auspices of the UN - about as independent and authoritative as anything can get http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergovernmental_Panel_on_Climate_Change .

 paul tradingpost@lobo.net


On 9/28/2013 5:37 PM, Lori wrote:

8D08ABAD3727E79-2628-22C2A@webmail-m246.sysops.aol.com" type="cite">Here's the problem:  The IPCC is a governmental panel.  I don't trust anything run by ANY government. Show me independent research supporting your premise and tell me why 30,000 scientists are suing Al Gore.  

http://healthwyze.org/index.php/component/content/article/249-al-gore-sued-by-30000-scientists-for-global-warming-fraud.html

BTW, I thought that this was a quorum where people were allowed to speak their minds not a quorum where people got attacked for not agreeing with someone. 

So no, it is not a joke nor did I appreciate your comment. It was rude.

Yes, I understand that many corporations lie, cheat, and steal from the American public. That doesn't mean that everything that someone says that supports their agenda is a liar.  I'm certainly not a cheating liar.  I care a lot about our planet.  What I want is for us to be energy independent. I want us to invest in alternative energy.  But I do not want to do it because someone in the Senate or Congress has been bought by an alternative energy company or if some man in West Virginia is going to lose his job and not be able to feed his family or because environmental quacks refuse to allow drilling to bring up the vast reserves of oil we have in Alaska or watch manufacturing companies in our country shut down because they can't afford to meet the ridiculous regulations for clean air and water.  

Things have got to slow down a little until the research can catch up and we can power our factories cleaner and CHEAPER. Otherwise this boat is going to go down with all of us in it and then where will we be with all our clean air and water?  Sure, it will be healthier and that is what we all want, but at what cost?  

Everyone has an agenda, even world governments.  Honestly, I don't believe we'll see real change until we can figure out a way to keep our leaders from being bought.  It's not just the big corporations that are dirty.  

Lori

-----Original Message-----
From: tradingpost <tradingpost@lobo.net>
To: livingontheland <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sat, Sep 28, 2013 3:05 am
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] CLIMATE STUDY: EVIDENCE LEANS AGAINST HUMAN-CAUSED GLOBAL WARMING

That's got to be a joke, right?
Surely you can't be unaware of who or what Breitbart is, or that billionaire criminals fund Heartland Institute? Then do some homework.

Hint: fossil fuel corporations write that drivel, slant everything, & lie like hell to protect their obscene profits. AND pay no income taxes.

Compare to:  IPCC #Climate Change Report Expresses Extreme Confidence In Human Cause Of Global Warming http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/27/ipcc-climate-change-report_n_4000153.html

paul tradingpost@lobo.net
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On 9/27/2013 3:05 PM, Lori wrote:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/16/PLS-HOLD-FOR-TUESDAY-9-17-AFTER-11AM-ET-Climate-Study-Evidence-Leans-Against-Human-Caused-Global-Warming 

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