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  • From: "John D'hondt" <dhondt@eircom.net>
  • To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing" <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] 'Organic' from China exposed
  • Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 23:35:13 -0000


I agree with everything you say Paul. And I am no longer certified myself. In the end it cost us about $ 700 more just for the honor to be certified organic than the "better" price we received for our products made up for.
And there are things that are completely overlooked in organic practise such as giving your soil all the trace elements it may need and can make use of.
I am only still convinced that gmo's and the unbelievable amount and diversity of chemicals used on industrial crops are really bad for the health of the consumer and the environment both. That is in my book the worst. And at least in organic products one would hope not to get any of this. Certified or not.

John

John, as a market grower I myself have specific doubts about
"organics", but not about it being good for u of course. Research shows
how "organic" is bastardized by Big Ag in USA. Even the monster Whole
Foods chain peddles lots of GMOs in their processed items. More subtle
is the way certification works here. As Eliot Coleman & others point
out, it's all process-based, with no reliance on produce testing of any
kind. Long as they have the paperwork to show various organic methods,
no test will show pesticides, herbicides, or chemical fertilizers in the
soil. Anyone can see this in the federal organic standards for
certification.

Now I choose to believe many growers, certified or not, use none of
those no-nos because I don't. However even consciencious growers can't
be 100% certain their soil amendments don't contain any barred
contaminents. We're not certified, too costly at small scale with many
varieties. We're asked often by customers and we won't fudge our claims.
We're also convinced that cheating affects the flavor & keeping
qualities of produce. In fact chemical nitrogen causes tomatoes to take
on more water which tends to dilute the flavor. We're fanatics about the
most flavorful varieties - mostly Italian heirlooms - and it would be a
shame to ruin them. And our customer loyalty is rewarding financially &
otherwise. Lots of trial & error but it helps that Barb grew up knowing
the best immigrant varieties from the Old Country.

paul tradingpost@lobo.net




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On 2/23/2013 at 11:39 PM John D'hondt wrote:

I'm sure this is part reality but I am still wondering where this news
comes
from for it has the effect of making people begin to doubt all organic
food.
Much the same as these articles that state organic food is bad for
you.
And
is it true? I know for a fact that I would not pass certification if I
were
watering my plants from an highly polluted river that went on fire
from
time
to time.
John

'Organic' from China exposed: The truth abt 'organic' foods from
world's worst environmental cesspool

http://www.naturalnews.com/039195_organic_foods_China_pollution_nightmare.html#ixzz2LbLh5Br6

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