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Re: [Livingontheland] From Food Crisis to Food Sovereignty
- From: "John D'hondt" <dhondt@eircom.net>
- To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing" <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] From Food Crisis to Food Sovereignty
- Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 21:39:17 -0000
Hi Pego,
did you get your history in an Irish school? What
is not mentioned there is the following story.
The son of Brian Boru who died in the Battle of
Clontarf was the high king in Ireland after his father. He also got wounded in
battle and lost an arm if my memory is correct. With such an handicap he could
no longer remain Hard Rich for a king had to be sound in body and soul. So
he fled Ireland for Rome where he gave the Pope the Sword and Scepter of Ireland
in exchange for a villa at Lake Como.
And the Pope gave those to the then English King in
the hope that the man would change Ireland's Christianity from the "Columban"
doctrine to the "Roman" doctrine. Imo the Columban way was much more enlightened
than Rome in those days.
The English only really started exploiting Ireland
after the threat of theSpanish Armada had gone. And being Flemish myself that
period has special meaning for me. The Spanish Army after the start of the
reformation wanted to bring Rome rule back everywhere and they wanted to invade
England. In those days the Spanish army was the most powerful in the world and
if they had been able to land in England, England would have fallen. Instead
they "wasted" about 50 years in the Low Countries (now Flanders and the
Netherlands) trying to turn the reformist tide. A few hundreds of thousands of
Flemish people got killed gruesomely. Most of the citizens of Antwerp fled North
before their city was taken by the Spanish and they ended up making Amsterdam
what it became. If you don't believe "gruesome"...pregnant women where burned at
the stake at the exact moment of giving birth.
What is also seldom mentioned in Irish history
lessons is that there where whole battalions of Irish mercenaries in this the
Spanish army while committing atrocities in Flanders. A fact commemorated in a
series of Irish Postal stamps that An Post brought out in 1990. What the English
did in Ireland afterwards was in part reprisal for that.
Just to show that history is often not that
simple.
A few more comments interspersed with your text
below
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Re: [Livingontheland] Population
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Re: [Livingontheland] Population,
Kate Spinner, 03/10/2011
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Re: [Livingontheland] Population,
Liz, 03/10/2011
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[Livingontheland] organic courses in India,
Ken Hargesheimer, 03/11/2011
- Re: [Livingontheland] organic courses in India, Tradingpost, 03/11/2011
- [Livingontheland] DIY hoop house, Ken Hargesheimer, 03/11/2011
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[Livingontheland] organic courses in India,
Ken Hargesheimer, 03/11/2011
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Re: [Livingontheland] Population,
Liz, 03/10/2011
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Re: [Livingontheland] Population,
Pete Vukovich, 03/07/2011
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Re: [Livingontheland] Population,
John D'hondt, 03/08/2011
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Re: [Livingontheland] Population,
Liz, 03/09/2011
- Re: [Livingontheland] Population, John D'hondt, 03/09/2011
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Re: [Livingontheland] Population,
Liz, 03/09/2011
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Re: [Livingontheland] Population,
John D'hondt, 03/08/2011
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Re: [Livingontheland] From Food Crisis to Food Sovereignty,
Pego Rice, 03/08/2011
- Re: [Livingontheland] From Food Crisis to Food Sovereignty, John D'hondt, 03/09/2011
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Re: [Livingontheland] From Food Crisis to Food Sovereignty,
Pego Rice, 03/11/2011
- Re: [Livingontheland] From Food Crisis to Food Sovereignty, John D'hondt, 03/11/2011
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Re: [Livingontheland] Population,
Kate Spinner, 03/10/2011
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