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  • From: Aliza Vanderlip <songbird97520@yahoo.com>
  • To: Healthy soil and sustainable growing <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Farm subsidies database
  • Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 21:05:27 -0700 (PDT)

Interestingly enough  the top one in the state of oregon is the Burns Paiute Tribe for 2009 and the third is the bureau of indian affairs LOL- 6 million out of the whole 23 million for all the years going to Umatilla Oregon in the BIA group  - The Burns Paiute tribe is mostly conservations subsidies but the BIA is lots of all kinds of subsidies.  Generally the state of oregon seems to be Wheat subsidies instead of corn and soy but I dont think subsidies are right anyway.  But I also dont like the CSA model - I dont think that the consumers should have to pay for my poor planning and learning curve - this year with the odd weather patterns my goats are not milking well at all.  I will have a milk shortage this winter that was unexpected - my customers shouldnt have to pay for that.  My opinion. 

Blessings,

Aliza


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--- On Sun, 8/22/10, Ken Hargesheimer <minifarms2@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ken Hargesheimer <minifarms2@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Farm subsidies database
To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing" <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 6:17 PM

Here in Lubbock TX one farm gets over $100,000 per year.  It is called government welfare.  Vegetables farmers are not eligible.
 
Ken H

--- On Sun, 8/22/10, Marty Kraft <martyk@allspecies.org> wrote:

From: Marty Kraft <martyk@allspecies.org>
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Farm subsidies database
To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing" <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 8:05 AM

Interesting. I looked through it for my county which is mostly developed in and around Kansas City. I was surprised at how many there were. I quit looking at about 500 recipients. What good can be made of the information?

I wonder what effect there would be if small scale organic no-till producers were able to apply for a subsidy. Would the price drop for organic vegetables? It should increase supply. How would it cut initiative and creativity for organic growers? The best course might be to stop all subsidies, except for disasters. The CSA seems like an alternative way to help the farmer with the risk.

Marty

On 8/21/10 7:10 PM, mdnagel@verizon.net wrote:
> Not sure if this had been mentioned here before.
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> http://farm.ewg.org/
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> Might be interesting to see what kind of handouts your local "farmers" are getting (and for what)...
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> -Mark Nagel
> Everett, WA
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