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Re: [Livingontheland] on Logsdon and the many versions of no-till
- From: Emery Mitchamore <emitch@att.net>
- To: Healthy soil and sustainable growing <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] on Logsdon and the many versions of no-till
- Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:57:49 -0500
Excellent! You stated what I wanted, but better than I would have. Add
"Farmers who have used "Herbicide No Till", but are finding herbicides less
effective, leading to greater tillage".
E. E. "Mitch" Mitchamore
www.hillcountrynatives.net
On Jun 18, 2010, at 6:33 AM, Greg Baka wrote:
> One of valuable things about Gene Logsdon's article on "No-Till" was that
> it points out that term is being applied to a very wide continuum of
> practices.
>
> The continuum ranges from:
> - Gardeners who keep a thick layer of mulch over their undisturbed soil...
> - Farmers who plant straight into a living tangle of ground cover...
> - Farmers who disc in green manure before broadcasting or drilling...
> - Farmers who till and mix the top few inches of soil and crop residue...
> - Farmers who use every conventional row crop operation imaginable EXCEPT
> turning the soil with a mold board plow
>
> So perhaps is he pointing out to us that "no-till" has become a term that
> is so widely used that it has begun to lose it's meaning? Like "green" and
> "organic" and "natural"
>
> Maybe the term "no-till" no needs qualifiers to tell where it falls on the
> continuum?
> * The farmers that Gene Logsdon describe from his area seem to be following
> "Industrial Ag No-Till".
> * In my flat row-crop garden that has never been plowed or rototilled - but
> is cultivated and weeded with a wheel hoe and a hand hoe - I am using
> "Cultivated Garden No-Till"
> * the previous poster who plants straight into the living ground cover is
> using "Intact Sod No-Till" or perhaps "Pure No-Till"?
>
> Moving away from a heavy plowing or rototilling habit is a good thing, some
> just move farther than others before they stop, practice their new method,
> and hopefully later further across the continuum to whatever true no-till
> is. Gene's article reminds us that many farmers haven't been moving very
> fast and are maybe getting a bit too settled where they are on the
> continuum.
>
> Greg in MO
>
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[Livingontheland] on Logsdon and the many versions of no-till,
Greg Baka, 06/18/2010
- Re: [Livingontheland] on Logsdon and the many versions of no-till, Emery Mitchamore, 06/18/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] on Logsdon and the many versions of no-till,
Pete Vukovich, 06/18/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] on Logsdon and the many versions of no-till,
Tradingpost, 06/19/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] on Logsdon and the many versions of no-till,
Pete Vukovich, 06/19/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] no-till,
Ken Hargesheimer, 06/19/2010
- Re: [Livingontheland] no-till, Tommy Tolson, 06/20/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] on Logsdon and the many versions of no-till,
Tradingpost, 06/19/2010
- Re: [Livingontheland] FYI on no-till, Ken Hargesheimer, 06/19/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] no-till,
Ken Hargesheimer, 06/19/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] on Logsdon and the many versions of no-till,
Pete Vukovich, 06/19/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] on Logsdon and the many versions of no-till,
Tradingpost, 06/19/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] on Logsdon and the many versions of no-till,
Dieter Brand, 06/19/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] on Logsdon and the many versions of no-till,
Ken Hargesheimer, 06/19/2010
- Re: [Livingontheland] on Logsdon and the many versions of no-till, Tradingpost, 06/19/2010
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Re: [Livingontheland] on Logsdon and the many versions of no-till,
Ken Hargesheimer, 06/19/2010
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