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  • From: "Kathy" <Vanokat@mrtc.com>
  • To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing" <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] when good food is not enough: MRSA, mutating fungi, candida
  • Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 07:12:48 -0500


I actually think that eo's are useful in the healing basket but the way it is promoted by YL is very very dangerous.
 
Agreed - Thanks for sending this I couldnot find it. Its been awhile since I had to debate RD - I thought everyone knew by now.
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Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] when good food is not enough: MRSA, mutating fungi, candida

Here is a link to the white paper presented by the National Association of Holistic Aromatherapy on Raindrop Therapy outlining the dangers of this practice. 


I actually think that eo's are useful in the healing basket but the way it is promoted by YL is very very dangerous.

That said - I always start with clearing the emotional aspects of any dis-ease or injury then go to food/herbs/other healing methodologies including eo's.  There are many way to be and stay healthy.  The important part is to pay attention to what your body is saying to you.  There was research done a few years back on eo's and MRSA.  They found a few that will clear it but they are still trying to figure out how to market it to make some dollars instead of just telling people which ones they are and in what combination:o(

Blessings,

Aliza


“Don’t ask what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive, and go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive.” Howard Thurman

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Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] when good food is not enough: MRSA,
mutating fungi, candida
From: "Tradingpost" <tradingpost@lobo.net>
Date: Tue, March 02, 2010 7:29 pm
To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org


Commercial promotions on this list are fair game. That's the way it goes down.

First, nobody's arguing all essential oils are bogus, or more ridiculous that food alone heals every accident and illness - as implied below. Those are straw man tactics.

Second, true believers find it easy to exaggerate and embellish. Yes, aromatherapy goes back centuries, but the history of distilled oils per se shows the process advanced very slowly and was limited to very few sketchy recorded instances like the Persian Avicenna and Hildegard of Bingen. There is no evidence of distilled oils ever being widely used in past centuries. What there is, is a long history of herbal medicine using plants for various ailments and conditions in almost all cultures. That is simply not the same as essential oils as we know them today. Modern essential oils and the distilling industry do not go back thousands of years. See http://www.aromaweb.com/articles/history.asp or many other sources. The sellers of modern distilled essential oils cannot honestly claim the long history of herbalism as the history of their distilled essential oils. All advertisements for their products seem to claim all herbalism as proof we need to buy their products. It's a long s
tretch to think there's no false advertising there.

That book (I know which book) claiming 1,000 Bible references to essential oils is misleading on several counts. The distillation process used today wasn't developed until the 20th century. Only a handful of oils were known at the time, and the dozen or so oils in ancient Palestine were not distilled; they were simple plant extracts much like extracts we find in the herbal supplements aisle today. More importantly, their use was largely for religious ritual; not meant for healing disease at all. The common mistake is taking a religious book and trying to make it a medical textbook. Not all essential oils are safe, topically or internally. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_oil

Sure there are studies showing certain essential oils show antibacterial properties in vitro, lab cultures. But I'll wait for double blind studies showing they're effective in human trials and that the plants themselves that they come from are not effective. I grow and use several mints and other herbs myself - but only because there's a lot more than traditional use to back them up.

paul tradingpost@lobo.net

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On 3/2/2010 at 5:38 PM Carrie Shepard wrote:

>While I would love to believe that good food and herbs were enough to
>keep us healthy, the truth is that that would be neglecting at least 1,000
>references in the Bible to essential oils and many more from Egyptian and
>Chinese sources just as old. There have always been diseases and
>accidents from which food alone is not enough to heal the person.
>
>Superbugs are a huge problem in hospitals and healthcare facilities and
>school sports programs now.
>
>My own story is that I had radically changed my diet but not recovered
>from mold and systemic candida. I learned how to butcher my own chickens
>and goat and milk my own goats, grow my own foods, and it was not enough.
>Thousands of dollars in herbal and whole food supplements didn't touch the
>candida and mold in my head and didn't help my numb heart. Watching a
>child starve to death after doctors refused further care took its toll,
>but it's a beauty for ashes story now.
>
> Young Living Raindrop oils and the oils in the 12 ancient oils of
>scripture healed my brain and heart...While some foods can make a person a
>bit happier, they cannot impact the limbic center the way essential oils
>do. Yes, trace amounts are to be found in fresh herbs, but when a person
>is in a health crisis, they need the concentrated form of the eo and
>sometimes a lot of it.
>
>My husband has a co-worker with MRSA now and his niece and nephew have
>MRSA, picked up from school sports. Do just a tiny bit of research and
>you will find that the doctors have nothing to offer these people but
>longterm fear of sudden organ failure from mutating antibiotic resistant
>fungi, Ecoli, MRSA, and candida. Pubmed has numerous research articles
>posted on the excellent results recieved from many essential oils, but if
>we do not teach, how do the people learn about it? You would not expect
>to go to a college without paying for the classes, nor a massage therapy
>school, so why would you want the teaching all for free?
>
>I'm told that MRSA is now a huge problem in the foster care system, a
>number of young children have died from it. They seem fine, develop a
>small abcess somewhere and boom, they're gone. As a CARE Instructor, I
>now have the opportunity to teach applied aromatherapy to nurses for IACET
>credits, these nurses have the potential to save lives with this
>knowledge, and protect their own.
>
>May wisdom prevail,
>Carrie Shepard, CI
>www.tulsacareintensive.eventsbot.com
>
>
>
>
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