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  • From: "Tradingpost" <tradingpost@lobo.net>
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  • Subject: [Livingontheland] cold frames/ was Food stamp recipients
  • Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 12:13:22 -0600


http://www.gardengatemagazine.com/main/pdf/coldfram.pdf
http://www.woodworkersworkshop.com/resources/index.php?cat=388
http://www.savvygardener.com/Features/cold_frames-hotbeds.html
http://coastalroots.lsu.edu/pdf/CRnursery/CRcanyard/cold_frame_plans.pdf


paul tradingpost@lobo.net

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On 5/22/2008 at 9:07 AM kathie wood wrote:

>I personally would love to see any links that would help me garden and
>build things as cheaply as I can. Thank you ! Kat
>
>Tradingpost <tradingpost@lobo.net> wrote:
>I have suggestions for cold frames, greenhouse, etc. if interested. I use
>cheap lumber and plastic, not used windows. They don't come in the right
>sizes, and glass can be broken by hail or accidents. I staple through a
>special thin plastic strip over 6 ml UV plastic to the lumber. It's called
>Poly-Tack from my local greenhouse supply. Without that I've used duct
>tape before, and electric stapler of course. Duct tape won't hold up in
>the sun after a few months tho. I use Phillips deck screws, not nails. We
>have high winds. One trick: any plastic needs to be stretched tight to
>fasten down, best in warm weather when it expands slightly. Then in the
>cold it's tight as a drum. Flopping plastic tears sooner.
>
>For small projects you can get by with 2x3 lumber and regular 3 or 4 ml
>roll plastic. I can send on links for cold frame construction if you want.
>Any question, just holler. That's what I do.
>
>paul tradingpost@lobo.net
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>On 5/22/2008 at 7:11 AM kathie wood wrote:
>
>>I joined this group as I am one of those seniors who fall just above the
>>poverty level and only get a limited income monthly. I am trying to get a
>>garden going as best I can but this silly weather is making what growing
>>season I have left very short. I am looking around this area for used
>>windows people want to give away so that I can somehow build a small
>>greenhouse or growing boxes to help further my plants growth along. It is
>>scary how things asre changing and beings I live off grid I am truthfully
>>very afraid of what this coming winter will bring. I use not only gasoline
>>for my generator and have solar, I use porpane for my refrigerator and
>>cook stove too.I may very well have to turn to be a vegetarian when I can
>>no longer afford to buy propane to keep my meats, milk and eggs cold. We
>>all shall see soon I am afraid. Kat
>>
>>Liz
>wrote: At 12:37 PM 5/21/2008, you wrote:
>>>It caught me that they kept saying that the food stamps aren't increasing
>>>with the price increases of food. Well the paychecks of the working class
>>>(and other classes but I'm less worried about them) aren't going up
>>either -
>>
>>I was thinking that too. My expenses have almost doubled, because gas
>>accounts for most of it. It's likely that there will be a small
>>increase in what I get paid per inspection, but it isn't going to
>>come anywhere near the percentage of increase in cost. And I'll get
>>that only if the prime contractor decides to share a bit more of what
>>she gets paid. She's done that twice in the current contract, and
>>there's no guarantee that she can afford to do it again.
>>
>>>That's what scares me, that those who are
>>>just above the poverty line will fall below it and not have any help
>>>available for them.
>>
>>What the article says about mothers giving their children whatever
>>will fill them up, whether it's good for them or not, is truly scary.
>>That's third-world thinking, the kind of thing that makes people eat
>>mud cookies in Haiti.
>>
>>
>>>I'm glad I live in an area where I can grow my own food. 'Cause at least
>I
>>>have that. As it is I'm pretty sure we won't be able to afford oil next
>>>winter unless they adjust the income levels for fuel assistance, but to
>>not
>>>be able to afford food as well, well that's a real kick in the face.
>>
>>I've noticed that people are getting more creative in using coupons,
>>but of course the problem with them is that they're usually good only
>>for highly processed "food." I hear friends bragging about spending
>>only $100 for $150 worth of food, but when I ask them what they
>>bought, it's cereal and pasta dinners and packaged pizza.
>>
>>Grow that garden. I try to bring that up with everyone I talk to, and
>>more and more people are responding that yes, they're growing a
>>garden this year too. Every little bit helps.
>>
>>Liz in SW VA
>>http://life-as-a-spectator-sport.com
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