Healthy soil and sustainable growing

["TradingPostPaul" <tradingpost@riseup.net>]

What I'm driving at is, this thing about sending out beautiful thoughts to
the world and all that jazz is mistaken, because that's all about changing
other people when we have so far to go in changing ourselves. 

paul tradingpost@lobo.net

Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes. 
--Henry David Thoreau 

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On 10/3/2007 at 12:31 PM Tradingpost wrote:

>The only person I can influence with my thoughts is me. And if I just
>imagine getting off my can and making that compost pile, but keep sitting
>in front of the computer instead, I seriously doubt the compost pile will
>manifest itself. 
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>paul tradingpost@lobo.net
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>On 10/3/2007 at 11:19 AM Douglas  Willhite wrote:
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>>Aliza,
>>I think Oprah would agree with you and certainly the authors of the best
>>seller "The Secret" would too. But, the popular notion that we can
>>manifest whatever we desire by picturing it in our minds and believing it
>>to be true is a grave disservice to most people. While positive thinking
>>can be a helpful motivator, it has a shadow side which is denial of
>>reality -- denial of the limits to growth and the limits to vital
>>resources which the global capitalist system is now pushing up hard
>>against; also, denial of how many people are hurt, displaced or killed by
>>this popular consumerist model.
>>In my opinion, for authentic hope to be generated emphasis must be on
>>embracing reality in all its beauty and horror, and taking concrete
>>actions toward real, demonstrable solutions at a local level (such as
>>putting into practice the ideas about soil building, water conservation,
>>community building, and sustainable technologies which have been so
>>eloquently shared in this forum.)
>>After all, actions speak louder than words, or thoughts, or desires. I
>>understand the comforting appeal in the idea that we can change the world
>>and manifest whatever our hearts desire by believing that what we want is
>>already true. But unfortunately some of the otherwise most intelligent
>>people I know are stuck in ignorance and denial because of this belief.
>>Manifesting their desires for abundance depends upon us maintaining a
>>profit driven system which is racist, sexist, classist and plundering our
>>only life support system, the natural world, our children and
>>grandchildren's planetary home.
>>Doug
>>
>>"There is more then just hope Harvey.  Our job is to see the world full
of
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>>all its gifts and with every moment and every movement choose the world
we
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>>want to have.  The more of us who see the world this way the more it will

>>manafest.  Just remember that everytime you choose to know the truth -
>>that 
>>we can and do influence everything and everyone moment to moment with
>>every 
>>breath and every thought - the more likely it is to become what we
desire.
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>>So make sure that the thoughts you think and the breath you breathe are 
>>working toward what you most want to manefest."
>>
>>Thanks so much for all you bring everywhere you go.
>>
>>Aliza"
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