Healthy soil and sustainable growing

["E. E. Mitchamore Jr" <emitch@att.net>]

Absolutely right!  The useful contribution of Permaculture is as a design overview of systems.  If you're talking farms, a Permaculture approach might help you decide where to place certain activities, and provide a philosophical basis for what you're doing.  In the same manner, Holistic Management might help you to make decisions.  These big "umbrella" concepts should not be taken to address all issues.  As they say in Holistic Management, " You still have to decide what to do after breakfast".

 

In Permaculture terms, your kitchen garden would be in zone 1, by the house.  Your raised bed (or not; Ken) production areas would be in zone 2, a little further out, and your edible forest would be in zone 3, still further out; maybe in an odd corner.  In all areas you would be conscious of weather patterns, microclimates, water management, fire danger, etc.  However, having done all that high-level planning, you still need to get your hands in the dirt and grow something to eat.

 

E. E. "Mitch" Mitchamore
www.hillcountrynatives.biz

----- Original Message -----

From: TradingPostPaul

To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org

Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:09 AM

Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] perma

And permaculture wasn't intended for maximizing sustainable food
production. As current trends continue, the need increases for localizing
healthy food and producing all we can from space available, wherever we
are. We don't have time to wait forty years for forest canopies to grow and
understories to develop to reach some idealized climax ecosystem. We do
have to stop topsoil loss and aquifer depletion with sustainable, intensive
growing and we have a great deal of information and sources to go with.

paul tradingpost@lobo.net

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On 3/8/2007 at 2:25 PM Ken Hargesheimer wrote:

>I have read the books.  The yield seems to be much lower than organic,
>no-till in permanents.  Do not miss understand me as I am in favor of it
>as it addresses the total picture.  Most people are not going to produce
>their own food. Therefore, those who do produce food must produce enough
>for the rest of the world.
>  
>  I am not the only one who believes that as I have read others.  A person
>in CAL is producing 6,000 lbs of food on 1/10 acre.
>  
>  Ken
>
>Mike E <mike.lists@mlxvi.org> wrote:
>  That's a pretty blunt statement Ken.
>
>Why can't it?
>
>Mike
>
>Ken Hargesheimer wrote:    
>Permaculture cannot feed the world. 
>  
>  Ken Hargesheimer



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