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  • From: "Tradingpost" <tradingpost@gilanet.com>
  • To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] What's wrong in "Thanksgiving's Hidden Costs"
  • Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 10:40:33 -0700


A lot of useful information there. I'm surprised with all the research we've
done here we haven't come across those things. Hearing personal experience
with that equipment and sources is invaluable.

paul@largocreekfarms.com
http://medicinehill.net

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On 11/28/2004 at 8:14 AM Pat Meadows wrote:

>On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 13:46:33 -0700, you wrote:
>
>>
>>And you're probably ahead of me on home growing. We're working on small
>scale production in high desert ranchland here in west central NM with
>90-day growing season. Too many around on welfare have lots of room to
>grow but not a clue. I'm not familiar with soy and wheat - how do you
>process it?
>>
>
>Our frost-free season is theoretically 120 days, but more
>often the reality is less. Let's see: this last summer:
>last frost on June 4, first frost on September 19. So that
>was 105 frost-free days. Sometimes it's less.
>
>Soy and wheat:
>
>We have a grain mill - a small electric one, meant for home
>use. Ours is a Whisper Mill but there are many brands and
>models available. The wheat is ground into flour, and made
>into our bread. That's hard winter wheat, bread wheat.
>
>I also buy soft wheat and grind it into whole-wheat pastry
>flour for pancakes, muffins, coffee cakes, etc. (URLs
>below, for people who are interested.) As it happens, I
>also have a hand-powered flour mill (a Corona). The Corona
>is NOT good for making fine flour, but it makes great
>cracked wheat for hot cereal. So we do this too. You can,
>of course, cook wheat berries whole and use them in soups,
>or as a pilaf (like rice), etc. You can sprout wheat
>berries too, into wheat grass and juice it and drink it (ugh
>- doesn't appeal to me). Home grinding of grain and home
>baking is a terrific money-saver, btw.
>
>With the Whisper Mill, grinding the wheat freshly adds about
>3 or 4 minutes of time to bread-baking. If you've never had
>bread made from freshly-ground flour, it is WAY better.
>Much, much nicer.
>
>Soy beans: I have a soymilk maker. This is a wonderful
>machine - like magic. :) I love my soymilk maker!
>
>>From the soybeans, I make soymilk. The soymilk can be drunk
>as milk, or used in cooking, and I do this. (Incidentally,
>it's worlds better than commercial soymilk - and worlds
>cheaper: it costs me about $0.11 for a quart and a half of
>soymilk.) But I also often use soymilk to make tofu: the
>tofu - again - is worlds better and cheaper than commercial
>tofu. I can make regular tofu or silken tofu (the latter
>being used a lot for desserts - cheesecakes, and the like).
>It costs me about $0.25 to make about a pound of regular
>tofu.
>
>I also have a tempeh-incubating chamber we made from a foam
>cooler, a thermostat, and a light bulb, and we can make
>tempeh from soybeans as well.
>
>Whisper Mill and other mills:
>http://www.pleasanthillgrain.com
>
>Soymilk Maker: http://www.soymilkmaker.com
>
>Hard winter wheat for bread: http://www.wheatmontana.com
>
>Soft wheat for other purposes: lots of places, but I buy
>mine from http://www.bulkfoods.com
>
>Soybeans direct from the grower - and these are the Laura
>variety of soybeans, non-GMO and said to be better for use
>in tofu than others (I don't know if this is correct -
>certainly I think that the tofu and soymilk I make are
>really delicious):
>http://shop.store.yahoo.com/fftosteds-store/20pounnonlau.html
>
>It would be better if I located *local* sources. I haven't,
>partly because I haven't had the time or energy to deal with
>it yet. Maybe someday.
>
>We are not, however, in a farming area, except for dairy
>farming. The hills here are too steep for anything but
>grazing (with a few valleys being exceptions), the season is
>short, winters are cold, and the soil is terrible. Even the
>dairy farming is, sadly, dying off.
>
>You can garden here successfully, however, although not many
>people seem to do it.
>
>Pat
>
>
>
>
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