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Re: [OFEX] FW: [NAFEX] Whip and tongue with two different sicons?
- From: "joe calico" <jcalico@sympatico.ca>
- To: "'Ontario Fruit Explorers'" <labruscagrape@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [OFEX] FW: [NAFEX] Whip and tongue with two different sicons?
- Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:58:14 -0400
Tom, I fully support everything you’ve said. Cleft grafting is my ‘staple’ (other than budding, in season). Joe C.
-----Original Message-----
Hi Biz,
This is the first style graft I ever did. I performed 4-5 and they all took.
I simply used an axe and hammer to gently open the split, then used a wood chisel to open the split for scion insertion. Really easy to match cambium as you can work with larger scions. The pressure from the tree wanting to come together holds everything very tightly.
The cleft graft can introduce disease so be sure to fill the open crack with something like pruning paint, grafting wax, beeswax, toilet sealing ring wax.
Note the gap in in diagram “B”, this needs to be filled, otherwise it will introduce water and disease to the center of the trunk.
Easy smeashy.
Later, Tom
-----Original Message-----
Good morning to the group
I have pasted this entry from nafex over to our group - and was wondering if anyone has tried this? I am looking at experimenting with cleft grafts on a group of trees that I'm renting from a neighbour's orchard. I also might give this a go with bald spots in my own orchard, instead of trying to encourage dormant buds to sprout.
To Joe and Joe - I'll be posting your Ashmead's Kernel scionwood this afternoon or tomorrow morning.
Cheers, Bizmark.
You can insert a shaved scion anywhere on the main trunk you want. You merely cut a 2 or 2.5 inch slit vertically on the trunk (when bark is slipping), pry one side up with a screw driver or whatever, and slip your scion in - shaved side to the trunk. Seal up all air access with childrens modeling clay, then paint the whole affair with grafting glue to anchor everything in place and prevent dessication of the scion. Whatever angle you set with the scion is the angle you get as a branch. In my estimation, far more practical than looking for a limb stump to bark graft. Plus, you can set a new branch where there is a bald spot on the trunk. Works REAL good with small diameter scion wood! Neat trick when you think about it!
Kenneth Quattlebaum
From: "Randall Burd" <burdrs@comcast.net> Subject: [NAFEX] To: <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> Message-ID: <00bc01c770c7$cce2b1c0$6501a8c0@D42MRG21> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Is there a way to graft two different scions using a 'whip and tongue'-like approach? The multigraft trees that I have purchased commercially all appear to have been grafted using a bud method, often leaving an undesirable acute branch angle?
Any suggestions?
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[OFEX] FW: [NAFEX] Whip and tongue with two different sicons?,
Biz Storms, 03/29/2007
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Re: [OFEX] FW: [NAFEX] Whip and tongue with two different sicons?,
Thomas Olenio, 03/29/2007
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Re: [OFEX] FW: [NAFEX] grafting questions - continued.,
Biz Storms, 03/29/2007
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- Re: [OFEX] FW: [NAFEX] grafting questions - continued., joe calico, 03/29/2007
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Re: [OFEX] FW: [NAFEX] grafting questions - continued.,
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Re: [OFEX] FW: [NAFEX] bunnies & rootstock,
Biz Storms, 03/31/2007
- Re: [OFEX] FW: [NAFEX] Whip and tongue with two different sicons?, joe calico, 03/29/2007
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Re: [OFEX] FW: [NAFEX] grafting questions - continued.,
Biz Storms, 03/29/2007
- Re: [OFEX] FW: [NAFEX] Whip and tongue with two different sicons?, Joe Boles, 03/29/2007
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Re: [OFEX] FW: [NAFEX] Whip and tongue with two different sicons?,
Thomas Olenio, 03/29/2007
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