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  • From: "joe calico" <jcalico@sympatico.ca>
  • To: "'Ontario Fruit Explorers'" <labruscagrape@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [OFEX] FW: [NAFEX] Whip and tongue with two different sicons?
  • Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:58:14 -0400

Tom, I fully support everything you’ve said.  Cleft grafting is my ‘staple’ (other than budding, in season).

Joe C.

 

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From: labruscagrape-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:labruscagrape-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Olenio
Sent: March 29, 2007 11:21 AM
To: 'Ontario Fruit Explorers'
Subject: Re: [OFEX] FW: [NAFEX] Whip and tongue with two different sicons?

 

Hi Biz,

 

This is the first style graft I ever did.  I performed 4-5 and they all took.

 

I simply used an axe and hammer to gently open the split, then used a wood chisel to open the split for scion insertion.  Really easy to match cambium as you can work with larger scions.  The pressure from the tree wanting to come together holds everything very tightly.

 

The cleft graft can introduce disease so be sure to fill the open crack with something like pruning paint, grafting wax, beeswax, toilet sealing ring wax.

 

 

Note the gap in in diagram “B”, this needs to be filled, otherwise it will introduce water and disease to the center of the trunk.

 

Easy smeashy.

 

Later,

Tom

 

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From: labruscagrape-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:labruscagrape-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Biz Storms
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:49 AM
To: 'Ontario Fruit Explorers'
Subject: [OFEX] FW: [NAFEX] Whip and tongue with two different sicons?

 

 

 

Good morning to the group

 

I have pasted this entry from nafex over to our group - and was wondering if

anyone has tried this? I am looking at experimenting with cleft grafts on a

group of trees that I'm renting from a neighbour's orchard. I also might

give this a go with bald spots in my own orchard, instead of trying to

encourage dormant buds to sprout.

 

To Joe and Joe - I'll be posting your Ashmead's Kernel scionwood this

afternoon or tomorrow morning.

 

Cheers, Bizmark.

 

 

 

You can insert a shaved scion anywhere on the main trunk you want. You

merely cut a 2 or 2.5 inch slit vertically on the trunk (when bark is

slipping), pry one side up with a screw driver or whatever, and slip your

scion in - shaved side to the trunk. Seal up all air access with childrens

modeling clay, then paint the whole affair with grafting glue to anchor

everything in place and prevent dessication of the scion. Whatever angle you

set with the scion is the angle you get as a branch. In my estimation, far

more practical than looking for a limb stump to bark graft. Plus, you can

set a new branch where there is a bald spot on the trunk. Works REAL good

with small diameter scion wood! Neat trick when you think about it!

 

Kenneth Quattlebaum

 

 

 

 

 

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Is there a way to graft two different scions using a 'whip and tongue'-like

approach? The multigraft trees that I have purchased commercially all appear

to have been grafted using a bud method, often leaving an undesirable acute

branch angle?

 

Any suggestions?

 

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