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["Tanner Lovelace" <clubjuggler AT gmail.com>]

Ah-ha!  I sense a disconnect here.

Ok, you mentioned IMAP and dovecot but then confused me by mentioning sending e-mail.  I was 
confused because IMAP and dovecot don't have anything at all do to with sending of e-mail.
Sending e-mail, also known as SMTP, is handled by a MTA (Mail Transport Agent) which 
in your case I'm going to guess will either be postfix or sendmail (but could possibly be
exim too).  The first question I have is this: have you configured your MTA to allow 
authenticated relaying?  If you haven't, then it won't work at all.  If you have, continue
below to my questions:

Under the "Tools"->Account Settings menu again, select the "Outgoing Server (SMTP)"
line in the left column, then select server on the right and click the "Edit" button.  Now,

1. Are "Use name and password" selected?
2. What do you have for "Use secure connection"?
3. What is the port?

This should help us answer why things aren't working.

Cheers,
Tanner

On 12/19/06, stan briggs < stan AT stanbriggs.com> wrote:

tanner/all,

replies, below. any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

 

thanks,

stan

-----Original Message-----
From: Tanner Lovelace [mailto:clubjuggler AT gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 2:21 PM
To: stan AT stanbriggs.com; Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
Subject: Re: [internetworkers] thunderbird

Stan,

As I explained in response to your message on the TriLUG list, LOGIN and PLAIN are _exactly the same_.  That's why you can't change it.  Also, you should never have to bother with the prefs.js file.  Everything can be done from the account setup.

So, let me ask a few questions to see if we can figure out what's wrong with the login.

1. What is the exact error message you're getting from Thunderbird?

2. Any error messages on the dovecot side?

the message in /var/log/maillog is:

Dec 14 13:56:35 pb1 sm-mta[32022]: STARTTLS=server, relay=[199.72.20.170], version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=NOT, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA, bits=256/256 Dec 14 13:56:36 pb1 sm-mta[32022]: AUTH=server, relay=[199.72.20.170], authid=stan_sb, mech=PLAIN, bits=0 Dec 14 13:56:36 pb1 sm-mta[32022]: kBEIuX3o032022: ruleset=check_rcpt, arg1=<stan AT itsco.com>, relay=[ 199.72.20.170], reject=550 5.7.1 <stan AT itsco.com>... Relaying denied. IP name lookup failed [199.72.20.170]

-> note that i was able add the address that the thunderbird client is operating inside of to relay-domains and get this to work but a) that is specifically what i don't want to do [add the address for each different location that i come in from] and b) i'm connecting to this same imap server from outlook (on this desktop) and evolution (desktop at home) and they both work fine.

3. Are you using SSL?

no, the outgoing smtp server is set to not do so. the incoming server is set to do so.

4. What port is your IMAP server on? (143 is the normal or starttls one and 993 is the ssl one)

my imap server is open on both, right now.

5. Under the Thunderbird menu "Tools"->"Accounts"->(the account in question)->Server Settings, what values do you have under "Security Settings" for "Use secure connection" and "Use secure authentication"?

'SSL' is selected. 'Use secure authentication' is not.

 And on that screen, what does the "Port" say?

on this screen it says '993'.

Cheers,
Tanner

On 12/19/06, stan briggs <stan AT stanbriggs.com> wrote:
> all/any,
>
> are there any hardcore thunderbird users out there?
>
> i'm new to thunderbird and like what i see so far. well, except that i
> can't send email from thunderbird. (my 'other' imap client [outlook])
> works fine with my dovecot imap server but, alas, thunderbird does
> not, yet. the short question seems to be how do i get thunderbird to
> use the authentication method 'LOGIN'. it seems to use 'PLAIN' and i can find nowhere to change it.
>
> the prefs.js file does not seem to be very well documented. there
> appears to a place there to set this value (auth_method) but no
> documentation as to what to change it to.
>
> anyone have any ideas?
>
> thanks,
> stan
>
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