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- From: Chad Ingham <wap AT visi.com>
- To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/" <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [internetworkers] why am I not surprised?
- Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 12:51:16 -0500
My statement was questioning whether the majority amount of time put in to compiling and presenting this report has been to rout out actual scientific inaccuracies or whether the time and money was mainly used to publicize the social values of the congressman and how the current teaching differ from that. We agree that any scientific inaccuracies should be corrected and in that regard the report would show its true value. How much of it is dedicated to that is unknown. We do know that at least some of the report bashes teachings as false that simply have a conservative social value attached, not because they are undebatedly scientifically inaccurate.
Your characterization of the current teaching as putting children in danger is inaccurate. The teachings seem to definitely favor a conservative don't-do-anything-sexual approach. Your example could be easily turned around by stating that if the kid thought that the percentage of gay teens with AIDS was much smaller, he might figure "why bother with condoms since my chances are low of contracting it". Either way, any kid who plays Russian roulette with his health has a character issue which you can't teach away.
- Chad
Michael wrote:
I think it's splitting hairs mighty fine to say, Oh, well, because one thing referenced in the article may have been misunderstood, the whole criticism must not be worth our time.
The congressman in question isn't opposed to teaching abstinence as the ultimate insurance policy - as he states clearly in the article. The congressman in question is trying to point out that a raftload of inaccuracies and misrepresentations and purposefully misleading "information" is present in the sex-ed curricula of half the states in the country. I assure you, I would be just as tweaked if the article stated that due to dogmatic curriculum choices the feds had funded geology curricula which taught the Earth is flat in half our states - and I think that's precisely the most appropriate simile I can come up with on the spur of the moment. It's more than offensive to me, it's /factually in error/. It's endangering people's lives, for pete's sakes.
At what point in the misrepresentation of health science information should I start to get heartburn? Should I wait until it affects someone in my family? Should I wait until I read some kid who was taught that half of gay teens already have HIV said to himself, well hell, the odds are against me already why bother with condoms? Or should I just say my prayers and hope it gets better?
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[internetworkers] why am I not surprised?,
Thomas Beckett, 12/02/2004
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Re: [internetworkers] why am I not surprised?,
Chad Ingham, 12/02/2004
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Re: [internetworkers] why am I not surprised?,
Michael, 12/02/2004
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Re: [internetworkers] why am I not surprised?,
Chad Ingham, 12/02/2004
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Re: [internetworkers] why am I not surprised?,
Michael, 12/02/2004
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Re: [internetworkers] why am I not surprised?,
Chad Ingham, 12/02/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] why am I not surprised?, Evan Zimmerman, 12/02/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] why am I not surprised?, Michael, 12/02/2004
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Re: [internetworkers] why am I not surprised?,
Chad Ingham, 12/02/2004
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Re: [internetworkers] why am I not surprised?,
Michael, 12/02/2004
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Re: [internetworkers] why am I not surprised?,
Chad Ingham, 12/02/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] why am I not surprised?, Thomas Beckett, 12/02/2004
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Re: [internetworkers] why am I not surprised?,
zman, 12/02/2004
- RE: [internetworkers] why am I not surprised?, Shea Tisdale, 12/02/2004
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Re: [internetworkers] why am I not surprised?,
Chad Ingham, 12/02/2004
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RE: [internetworkers] why am I not surprised?,
Shea Tisdale, 12/02/2004
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RE: [internetworkers] why am I not surprised?,
zman, 12/02/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] why am I not surprised?, Tanner Lovelace, 12/02/2004
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RE: [internetworkers] why am I not surprised?,
zman, 12/02/2004
- Re: [internetworkers] why am I not surprised?, zman, 12/02/2004
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RE: [internetworkers] why am I not surprised?,
Shea Tisdale, 12/02/2004
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Re: [internetworkers] why am I not surprised?,
Michael, 12/02/2004
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Re: [internetworkers] why am I not surprised?,
Chad Ingham, 12/02/2004
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