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[Evan Zimmerman <evan.zimmerman AT gmail.com>]

I don't know about that though -- as far as Dean is concerned, he
really gave moderates a feel for what Liberal is. Without him to
Demonize I'm not certain the label would have stuck so cleanly to
Kerry. He definitely energized younger viewers and showed the way for
netroots activism though. Trouble is, he showed it to the Republicans
too :-)

That article sums up a lot of the problems with Dems though that have
come up on list lately -- inability to articulate, air of superiority
("the facts are on our side - you don't understand"), and lack of
empathy for religious/morality oriented voters -- and offers direction
for changing all that that makes sense at least to me.


Evan

On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 12:32:29 -0500, Ian Meyer <ianmeyer AT gmail.com> wrote:
> you gotta love CNN and their shotgun directional mic, eh?
> 
> i think that in spite of his downfall after the dean scream, he got
> the party moving in such a way, with such momentum, that without that
> start, we wouldn't have stood a chance in the general election
> 
> ~ian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 11:36:25 -0500 (EST), Sil Greene <quack AT ibiblio.org> 
> wrote:
> > Michael Czeiszperger said:
> >
> >
> > > Evan Zimmerman wrote:
> >
> > >> As firmly a democrat as I am, I've been frustrated at the lack of
> > >> _any_ democrat's ability to put forth a clear message. Howard Dean was
> > >> the closest to it, which is why he (IMO) went so far, but his
> > >> personality wouldn't sell.
> > >
> > > I don't think Dean got far enough to find out.  He was labeled as an
> > > extreme liberal early on by the right-wing echo chamber and he didn't
> > > get far enough for anyone who didn't vote in a primary to actually look
> > > into it.
> >
> > That 'scream' video that the networks hammered on was Dean's downfall.
> > The support prior to that vid coming out seemed to have no end; the shift,
> > after the vid hit the air, looked like a balloon popping: instant
> > deflation.
> >
> > --s
> >
> >
> >
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