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  • From: Evan Zimmerman <evan.zimmerman AT gmail.com>
  • To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/" <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Fox News at it yet again
  • Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 07:42:56 -0400

Man, we are still confusing our folks here. Maybe labels don't mean
anything but come on -- Begala, Carville, Buchanon, Matalin and all
their myriad brethren: they're hired political operatives. Pundits.
Call them what you will, they are NOT there to deliver the news. No
one expects them to. They're there to deliver opinion. There is a
whole discussion to be had as to whether or not they should even be
allowed to coment on news events alongside "real" reporters, but
that's a different issue.

Carl Cameron, Wolf Blitzer, etc are there to deliver news/report on
events. Carl crossed the line, and it appears by his background that
he did it intentionally. Maybe it's a hazy line and easy to stumble
across, but whatever -- he crossed it.

On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 01:16:58 -0400, Shea Tisdale <shea AT sheatisdale.com> wrote:
> James Dasher wrote:
> > On Oct 7, 2004, at 1:42 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:
> >
> > >> Add to that, his wife
> > >> Pauline Cameron
> > >> works for or has worked for the Bush campaign. And even all this isn't
> > >> enough for Fox News to sideline him or fire him.
> > >
> > > When did working for a campaign become grounds for firing?
> > >
> > > Paul Begala currently works for the Kerry campaign AND is employeed by
> > > CNN.
> > > James Carville currently works for the Kerry campaign AND is employeed
> > > by
> > > CNN.
>
> And Paul Begala is the co-host of Crossfire with Carville. Where according
> to the CNN site "Begala and co-host James Carville provide insight and
> commentary "from the left," as they square off against conservatives Robert
> Novak and Tucker Carlson."
>
> They are presented as being biased and therefore I have no problem with it.
>
> >
> > I think the real sin is that Carl Cameron's WIFE may have worked for or
> > might currently work for a political campaign.
> >
> > Since James Carville's wife doesn't work for the Kerry campaign, I
> > think that means he's not biased.
>
> Actually James Carville's wife, Mary Matalin, worked for the Bush campaign
> and served as an assistant to Bush and advisor to Cheney.
>
> >
> > Feh.
> >
> > Anyways, I know it won't go over well here, but there are two things
> > worth noting about news media:
> >
> > 1) This sounds like a pool report gone bad. Pool reports have gone out
> > as news stories before people - editors, etc. - catch them. And the
> > reporter can sometimes look bad when things the reporter might say to a
> > colleague suddenly get seen by hundreds (or thousands, or more) people.
>
> Actually he claims it was a joke that somehow got out.
>
> >
> > 2) Reporters married to politicians and political activists? Say it
> > ain't so! Next time you read an AP story or a Reuters story, Google
> > the byline and try to find out what the spouse does. You can't always
> > find the information, but more times than not, you'll find that the
> > spouse is politically active. Sort of makes you pause when you read
> > those "unbiased" news reports.
> >
> > --
> > James Dasher
> > misterdasher dot com
> > IM misterdasher
> >
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Evan

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