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[Sil Greene <quack AT ibiblio.org>]

nifty, but i don't recommend this:
  -- a) as expensive ($60, +s&h) as higher-end USB+FW enclosures
  -- b) FW only
  -- c) internal-PC-style power plugs -- won't this mean you have to shut 
down the PC if you've used the power supply to power this thing?

with c), you'll either have to come up with some funky adapter to plug it 
straight into a wall socket, or you'll end up plugging it into your pc's 
power supply.  i'm not sure what it takes to be hot-swappable, but i don't 
think unplugging a drive from this board while it's getting power from 
your PC counts.  (someone more knowledgeable about power issues, please 
correct me if i'm off base here.)

an advantage to the external enclosures is the separate power supply, 
which means sticking a new drive in doesn't require shutting down the pc, 
just disconnecting the USB/FW connection, powering down the enclosure, and 
pulling out the drive.  here's GraniteDigital's offerings (although i 
think you can find these cheaper elsewhere):

http://www.granitedigital.com/catalog/pg39_usb2harddrivesystems.htm

a word of warning:  be skeptical when they tell you the $70 3.5" enclosure 
only supports IDE drives up to 120Gb...  :)

-sil



Reported 04.06.20 18:38 from Ian Meyer:
.:
.:here's some:
.:
.:http://www.granitedigital.com/catalog/pg19_firewirebridgeboards.htm
.:
.:there's others that are little blue blocks, they go on the end of the 
.:drive and just have a couple FW ports, but I can't remember the name or 
.:who makes them
.:
.:but also, yeah, any FW enclosure would work for this
.:
.:~ian
.:
.:
.:On Jun 20, 2004, at 6:04 PM, Sil Greene wrote:
.:
.:>
.:> Kurt, you can get external IDE drive enclosures for standard IDE drives
.:> (3.5" or larger) for around $20-40.  These provide a USB(2) interface;
.:> slightly more expensive models add ieee1394 (Firewire).  Intrex 
.:> typically
.:> stocks them, or you should be able to find them at your favorite online
.:> parts supplier (newegg et al).
.:>
.:> Basically these devices supply a case and the circuitry to convert from
.:> the drive's IDE to (USB|Firewire).  You're mainly interested in the
.:> circuitry here, but you can probably just leave the case open during
.:> operation for ease of swapping in a new drive.  Just be sure to unplug 
.:> and
.:> power-down the device before disconnecting the connected drive.
.:>
.:> --Sil
.:>
.:>
.:>
.:>
.:> Reported 04.06.20 17:36 from Kurt Schlatzer:
.:> .:
.:> .:Anyone know of a device that you can use on a PC externally and plug 
.:> in old
.:> .:IDE drives to harvest the data off them? Some kind of docking 
.:> station for
.:> .:internal drives? I've got about 10 that I need to do this with and 
.:> I'm in no
.:> .:mood to open up my box that I just built each time I need to do 
.:> this. I
.:> .:can't seem to find anything like this on the Web. It seems like 
.:> something
.:> .:that useful would exist somewhere. Eventually I'm going move all the 
.:> old
.:> .:stuff to DVDs. Until then...
.:> .:
.:> .:Kurt Schlatzer
.:> .:www.kurtschlatzer.com
.:> .:
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